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  • cookie123
    Junior Member
    • Feb 2012
    • 45

    Pre-ban

    This is a very naive question, but i've been looking into uppers and one stag arms one I found said "pre ban" in the description, I hate to ask, but, could someone tell me what "ban" this is "pre" of....
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    nick
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Aug 2008
    • 19151

    Federal. What the seller means is that it doesn't have a bayonet lug and things like that.
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    • #3
      cookie123
      Junior Member
      • Feb 2012
      • 45

      So does it affect the legality of it in California?

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      • #4
        RobGR
        Veteran Member
        • May 2010
        • 2880

        Originally posted by cookie123
        So does it affect the legality of it in California?
        Yes & no, because legality might be determined on whether or not you have a bullet button on your lower. Example, if it has a flash hider, you will need a bullet button. Flash hider is a CA evil feature. I'm sure it has a 16" barrel right? 16" barrel and longer is fine. I'm sure the upper you are looking at is perfectly legal, it's just a matter of when you connect it to your lower.

        Maybe post the specific upper you're interested in to get specific answers.

        And there are no dumb questions, our laws are ridiculous and can catch anyone if they are not 100% aware. Hell, even some LEO have no idea what our laws mean. But google is also your friend.
        Last edited by RobGR; 11-23-2012, 5:24 PM.

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        • #5
          cookie123
          Junior Member
          • Feb 2012
          • 45

          Thank you for the help. And sorry, it's the stag arms 2HT, 16"and it would be with a bullet button.

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          • #6
            RobGR
            Veteran Member
            • May 2010
            • 2880

            Yeah, you're definitely fine, plenty of owners of that upper in CA.

            "If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks & corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their Fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs."

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            • #7
              Jpach
              Veteran Member
              • Oct 2007
              • 4707

              Originally posted by nick
              Federal. What the seller means is that it doesn't have a bayonet lug and things like that.
              IIRC Post ban is no bayo lug and other evil stuff. But I think you knew that and just misspoke
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              • #8
                nick
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                CGN Contributor
                • Aug 2008
                • 19151

                Umm, isn't that what I said?
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                • #9
                  tujungatoes
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 7942

                  Originally posted by nick
                  Umm, isn't that what I said?
                  No. The upper in question is "pre-ban" config. You said that meant it was the non bayo lug/flash hider version. This is incorrect.

                  pre-ban = un neutered
                  post-ban = neutered
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                  • #10
                    nick
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 19151

                    Originally posted by tujungatoes
                    No. The upper in question is "pre-ban" config. You said that meant it was the non bayo lug/flash hider version. This is incorrect.

                    pre-ban = un neutered
                    post-ban = neutered
                    Ah, right. Pre-ban - good, post-ban - bad. You'd think it was the other way around
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                    • #11
                      tujungatoes
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 7942

                      You'd think so. IDK why the hell they still use that terminology. It's been over for 8 goddamn years already.
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                      Originally posted by Dr. Elky
                      If your a man who wears white sunglasses, your probably a douche bag
                      Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
                      I've been know to cross dress and go the other way at certain events.

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                      • #12
                        S470FM
                        Banned
                        • Oct 2011
                        • 968

                        that's because CA lawmakers are idiots

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                        • #13
                          TANK1135
                          Member
                          • Sep 2012
                          • 288

                          Originally posted by tujungatoes
                          You'd think so. IDK why the hell they still use that terminology. It's been over for 8 goddamn years already.
                          In some states like NY the pre and post ban matters.

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