Best weight for an AR trigger job on a bench AR?

[Kappy]

I appreciate all of the suggestions, but a new trigger is a bit out of my price range at the moment. My only real option at present is to have a trigger job done on the stock trigger. I might be able to afford a more expensive one later.

I should also say... I've had the triggers worked over on all of my range pieces, including my 10/22. Sure, I could have bought a Timney 10/22 trigger, but the stock one I had worked over in my 10/22 is at least equal (in some ways better) than ones I've tried on other guys' rifles which cost between $100 and $200. I figure it might also be true for an AR-15.

I figure... the guy wants me to load him a few dozen rounds to my specs and is willing to work my trigger. I've dealt with his work before, and it is more than solid... why not see what he can do with the trigger for, what I see, as essentially free?

So... back to the original question at hand... if he wants to get the trigger down to between 4 and 4.5#, is that good enough for a bench rifle?

[chicoredneck]

I appreciate all of the suggestions, but a new trigger is a bit out of my price range at the moment. My only real option at present is to have a trigger job done on the stock trigger. I might be able to afford a more expensive one later.

I should also say... I've had the triggers worked over on all of my range pieces, including my 10/22. Sure, I could have bought a Timney 10/22 trigger, but the stock one I had worked over in my 10/22 is at least equal (in some ways better) than ones I've tried on other guys' rifles which cost between $100 and $200. I figure it might also be true for an AR-15.

I figure... the guy wants me to load him a few dozen rounds to my specs and is willing to work my trigger. I've dealt with his work before, and it is more than solid... why not see what he can do with the trigger for, what I see, as essentially free?

So... back to the original question at hand... if he wants to get the trigger down to between 4 and 4.5#, is that good enough for a bench rifle?

4-4.5lbs is OK. The quality of the pull is just as important, as I'm sure you already know. The problem with re-worked stock AR triggers is that they usually do not last. The finish job can wear out on them fairly fast because many triggers are case hardened. When the smith removes some of the surface to hone your trigger he may be exposing a softer layer of metal. You will not know untill you try it though.

How much is he charging you for the work? I have several aftermarket triggers and the least expensive one, the jard, is my favorite. It has a slower locktime than the geissele, but I shoot better with it despite the slow locktime. My jard is a single stage and I have it set to 1lb. Last I checked they could be had for a little over $100.

I know you are set on having a foctory trigger re-worked, but after you spend the money on the smith and the trigger is still not up to snuff, you may be sorry. Of course, I am only speculating.

For what it's worth, I shot my first AR years ago with a junky factory trigger. After I became used to it I was quite good with it. I could shoot it just as well as I could my bolt actions with fine triggers. I have not used a factory AR trigger for precision shooting in a long time, but the other day I hade to use one. I can no longer shoot well with them. Practice enough with the same trigger and you can do well, especially if you have a heavy 10lb+ AR.

[Kappy]

4-4.5lbs is OK. The quality of the pull is just as important, as I'm sure you already know. The problem with re-worked stock AR triggers is that they usually do not last. The finish job can wear out on them fairly fast because many triggers are case hardened. When the smith removes some of the surface to hone your trigger he may be exposing a softer layer of metal. You will not know untill you try it though.

How much is he charging you for the work? I have several aftermarket triggers and the least expensive one, the jard, is my favorite. It has a slower locktime than the geissele, but I shoot better with it despite the slow locktime. My jard is a single stage and I have it set to 1lb. Last I checked they could be had for a little over $100.

I know you are set on having a foctory trigger re-worked, but after you spend the money on the smith and the trigger is still not up to snuff, you may be sorry. Of course, I am only speculating.

For what it's worth, I shot my first AR years ago with a junky factory trigger. After I became used to it I was quite good with it. I could shoot it just as well as I could my bolt actions with fine triggers. I have not used a factory AR trigger for precision shooting in a long time, but the other day I hade to use one. I can no longer shoot well with them. Practice enough with the same trigger and you can do well, especially if you have a heavy 10lb+ AR.

He's charging me some ammo. I'm making him up 60 rounds. A few guys at the range seemed to have discovered that when they shoot my ammo in their guns, it tightens up groups by... in excess of 50%. It isn't that hard to make... so after you figure in time, I figure this trigger job is costing me in the neighborhood of... $20?

I figure that's worth it.

[chicoredneck]

He's charging me some ammo. I'm making him up 60 rounds. A few guys at the range seemed to have discovered that when they shoot my ammo in their guns, it tightens up groups by... in excess of 50%. It isn't that hard to make... so after you figure in time, I figure this trigger job is costing me in the neighborhood of... $20?

I figure that's worth it.

Sounds like a deal to me

If your AR is heavy a 4lb trigger is probably fine. NM triggers are all in the 4.5# range and guys shoot great with them. If you have a light AR then a 4lb trigger pull may be a little difficult, but a lot better then trying to squeeze a 9lb trigger on a 7lb gun!

[donw]

i've got a, measured, 3.75 lb JB kit in my spikes tactical...it's wonderful...i don't prefer a two stage in the ar platform...i have it adjusted to be 'just right'...

a good trigger is a MUST for optimum accuracy.

[707electrician]

I've got the Jard 2 lb. adjustable in a couple of my lowers. I bought the 1.5# springs to put in them, haven't gotten to it yet though. Don't know where you're located, if you're anywhere near Tracy/Livermore you're welcome to try it one day.



100 yds. WOA 22" upper, factory Black Hills ammo...

(yeah, yeah...I know, I missed the dot)

-Rick

Thats okay, in benchrest you can be a mile off the target and still win with the smallest group

[0351USMC]

get a JP Yellow Springs for $10

[Kappy]

Handed over the rifle today. We'll see. Most of this is just making the trigger smoother.

[Tier One Arms]

The ALG trigger is great, and price under $60.

[707electrician]

The ALG trigger is great, and price under $60.

If you want a deal on a great trigger talk to this guy

[Kappy]

I seriously don't have money for a trigger job. I chose... Let's just say a profession which pays as much as it should but doesn't leave me much left over if I want to shoot much and not be far into credit card debt.

So... Pay $60 or get a job for about $20 in components plus a bit of manual labor...

But if it doesn't work out, I'll look into it after Hanukkah. Thanks for the suggestion.


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[CSACANNONEER]

I run a 1 lb trigger with my single shot 50BMG upper. It's a little on the heavy side for BR shooting but, I'm an oaf and scared to drop it below that.

[billmaykafer]

I've got the Jard 2 lb. adjustable in a couple of my lowers. I bought the 1.5# springs to put in them, haven't gotten to it yet though. Don't know where you're located, if you're anywhere near Tracy/Livermore you're welcome to try it one day.



100 yds. WOA 22" upper, factory Black Hills ammo...

(yeah, yeah...I know, I missed the dot)

-Rick

raise your front sight. you missed the red ball.

[Kappy]

raise your front sight. you missed the red ball.

Objection! Asked and answered!

[HK Dave]

raise your front sight. you missed the red ball.

Surely this must be a joke?