AR Help Please

[DeputyJRH]

Hello everyone,
Im building an AR and I have a few concerns. I've searched the forums for a previous post with my same questions but no such luck. For my AR to be completely compliant does the upper have to be the post ban style with the permanent muzzle break or can I get away with a standard removable flash hider style? Technically, since Im a Deputy I suppose I can have all the not so legal goodies but I want to build a completely compliant gun so I don't have to surrender it if I ever leave my department.

Thanks in advance for any information you might be able to provide for me.

[russ69]

Removable magazine or not?

[DeputyJRH]

yes the mag is removable but it has a bullet bitton

[DeputyJRH]

*Button*

[Arkangel]

If you have a BB'd AR and at least a 16" barrel, then you can have a removable fh/brake.

[JayBeeJay]

^^^ This...if you want a 14.5 " barrel you would need to pin a fh/brake at least 1.5" to meet the oal.

[rero360]

Well then it is non-detachable, or "fixed" which means that you can ignore pretty much all else provided you are only using 10 round or less magazines. You can have whatever muzzle device you want, and it does not have to be pinned unless your barrel is less than 16"

Now if you wish to use greater than 10 round mags you have to remove the bullet button and then remove any other features (flash hider, adjustable stock, pistol grip, forward pistol grip) to remain compliant to the law. Even if you remove all the features but leave the bullet button on and insert a greater than 10 round mag into the rifle you committed a felony so don't do it.

Having said all that, you are a public servant, one tasked with enforcing the law, having access to all the laws and regulation (I know with the internet everyone does really) LEO are generally expected to have a greater understanding and knowledge of the law than the average layman. And yet here you are, asking John Q Public what the laws are regarding your personal property.

I'm not saying that that is bad, I commend you for wanting to know the laws and be in compliance with them, it is always good to further one's knowledge. It rather further strengthens the fact that CA laws are arbitrary, byzantine, confusing and at times conflicting with one another. Just goes to show that they need to be simplified, streamlined and greatly reduced.

[readysetgo]

Hello everyone,
Im building an AR and I have a few concerns. I've searched the forums for a previous post with my same questions but no such luck. For my AR to be completely compliant does the upper have to be the post ban style with the permanent muzzle break or can I get away with a standard removable flash hider style?
Thanks in advance for any information you might be able to provide for me.

Consult the flow chart.

http://www.calguns.net/caawid/flowchart.pdf

You're missing some specific info in your question.
If your question is "Can I use a removable flash hider?"
then the answer is... yes you can, if your rifle is configured correctly.
If your rifle is of the "non detachable magazine" (e.g. bullet button) variety then you may use features, of which a flash hider happens to be one.

Technically, since Im a Deputy I suppose I can have all the not so legal goodies but I want to build a completely compliant gun so I don't have to surrender it if I ever leave my department.

Unless your talking RAW (registered "assault weapon") you're just like the rest of us bud.

[DeputyJRH]

Thank you everyone. Questions Answered. As for me being a LEO and having a greater understanding of the law. I can assure you that I take my job very seriously and have an extensive knowledge of the laws of our state. However, it would be absurd to expect me to know every detail of the laws regarding assault weapons and the exceptions to those laws. I do not labor under the misconception that just because I am a peace officer that there are not civilians with a greater working knowledge of certain laws than myself. I use any means of furthering my knowledge available to me even if that means asking questions on a primarily civilian blog rather than reading a copy of the California Code of Regulations for hours and probably not finding my answer.

[readysetgo]

Thank you everyone. Questions Answered. As for me being a LEO and having a greater understanding of the law. I can assure you that I take my job very seriously and have an extensive knowledge of the laws of our state. However, it would be absurd to expect me to know every detail of the laws regarding assault weapons and the exceptions to those laws. I do not labor under the misconception that just because I am a peace officer that there are not civilians with a greater working knowledge of certain laws than myself. I use any means of furthering my knowledge available to me even if that means asking questions on a primarily civilian blog rather than reading a copy of the California Code of Regulations for hours and probably not finding my answer.

Fair enough. No harm, no foul.

However...

Technically, since Im a Deputy I suppose I can have all the not so legal goodies

I'm pretty sure I understand your intent with that statement and you did add that you were looking to be totally compliant w/ state law.

But what you actually said was "I suppose I can have not so legal goodies" which is technically false, because if they were "not so legal" you'd, by definition, be breaking the law. Not trying to nitpick, like I said, I understood your question. Just realize what you put in writing can be scrutinized beyond what you intended to say.

ETA:
Oh and I was gonna mention that usually the term "post ban" is refering to the federal ban that has since expired.

... and welcome to the forum!

[DeputyJRH]

Im sorry that was not aimed at you whatsoever I didn't know you had commented on it until after I wrote my last comment. And after reading my original post I should have worded it better. What I meant is that I could go buy or build a noncompliant rifle and have to register as an assault weapon with the state and my department and then have to surrender it if i ever left. So I would like to build a compliant rifle but I wasn't sure about certain aspects.

[readysetgo]

Im sorry that was not aimed at you whatsoever I didn't know you had commented on it until after I wrote my last comment. And after reading my original post I should have worded it better. What I meant is that I could go buy or build a noncompliant rifle and have to register as an assault weapon with the state and my department and then have to surrender it if i ever left. So I would like to build a compliant rifle but I wasn't sure about certain aspects.

No worries, I totally get it.
LEO have exemptions to certain laws, which is the other part you were speaking to. That's the way it is, I think some people don't like the "equality" of it or get jelly.

[rero360]

Thank you everyone. Questions Answered. As for me being a LEO and having a greater understanding of the law. I can assure you that I take my job very seriously and have an extensive knowledge of the laws of our state. However, it would be absurd to expect me to know every detail of the laws regarding assault weapons and the exceptions to those laws. I do not labor under the misconception that just because I am a peace officer that there are not civilians with a greater working knowledge of certain laws than myself. I use any means of furthering my knowledge available to me even if that means asking questions on a primarily civilian blog rather than reading a copy of the California Code of Regulations for hours and probably not finding my answer.

No worries, wasn't meant as a dig against you personally, more at the system at a whole. I commend you for wanting to do things correctly and further your knowledge, more should do so.

[KaLiFORNIA]

Thank you everyone. Questions Answered. As for me being a LEO and having a greater understanding of the law. I can assure you that I take my job very seriously and have an extensive knowledge of the laws of our state. However, it would be absurd to expect me to know every detail of the laws regarding assault weapons and the exceptions to those laws. I do not labor under the misconception that just because I am a peace officer that there are not civilians with a greater working knowledge of certain laws than myself. I use any means of furthering my knowledge available to me even if that means asking questions on a primarily civilian blog rather than reading a copy of the California Code of Regulations for hours and probably not finding my answer.

but just remember civilians are accountable for all those laws you don't even know...

[DeputyJRH]

but just remember civilians are accountable for all those laws you don't even know...

Ok. Well as I said earlier I take my job very serious. So just to put your mind at ease, I have read and made a copy of "Those laws I don't even know" in the time since I wrote my original post on here this morning. Sorry to disappoint you but Im not the type of police officer to slack off and get by on a basic understanding of the law.