My feeling is NO just want to confirm with you guys. Thanks
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Can I shoot my AR pistol with Grip Pod attached?
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This is primarily an issue of fed law.
in the strictest sense of the definition of AR pistol, no.
If said pistol is registered and has the correct tax stamp with the NFA as an AOW, then yes.
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If the length of your pistol is OVER 26inches, then yes.
By the fed definition, this makes your AR a Title 1 "other" long arm, still a pistol in Ca law.The California Moderate Centrist Militia member in exile
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This is primarily an issue of fed law.
in the strictest sense of the definition of AR pistol, no.
If said pistol is registered and has the correct tax stamp with the NFA as an AOW, then yes.
OR
If the length of your pistol is OVER 26inches, then yes.
By the fed definition, this makes your AR a Title 1 "other" long arm, still a pistol in Ca law.sigpic
"If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).Comment
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Doesn't it depend on the length of the barrel? If it's a short pistol barrel with a grip-pod, I think that will be classify as a "AOW", Any Other Weapon."We are not human beings having a spiritual experience; we are spiritual beings having a human experience." - Pierre Teilhard de Chardin.Comment
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It is not an AOW if OAL is more than 26.3"
If it is more than 26.3" like the Franklin Armory "pistol" and the "pistol" with a similar set up in the following posts then it is a Title 1 Fire Arm under federal law, but a pistol under California law. This configuration is kosher with the grippod.
Only pistol with VFG that has a letter from ATF that stating it is not an AOW, is Franklin' Armory's AR pistol.
Franklin Armory is a California & Nevada quality based AR-15 manufacturer. We offer quality, reliable firearms for civilians, law enforcement, & military agencies
Here is the letter http://www.franklinarmory.com/XO-26_Letter__c_.pdf
According to letter its OAL length of 26.3 inches and 10.5 inch barrel, it can not be concealed thus not an AOW.
Title I is an ordinary, unrestricted firearm, just like your 10/22 or your AR. We call it a Title I Firearm because of the classification of this gun by the ATF. As far as they are concerned, with an OAL of more than 26", this is not a pistol, but without a butt stock, it is obviously not a rifle. So what is it? It's not an AOW. So on the 4473, it is an "other" aka a "Title I Firearm".
As far as California is concerned, it is a pistol and it was SSE transferred with a zero round sled. I know, it's confusing, isn't it?
I salute Franklin Armory, who with their XO-26, received the ATF ruling that clarified this. I carry a copy of the ATF letter in this gun's case but it is encouraging, the range I shoot at sells the XO-26 and has one in their gun rental stock so seeing this gun at the range is becoming less and less of a novelty. This is the closes you can get to an SBR in California and while not as good, it is decent substitute."don't be that guy"...
Originally posted by tenpercentfirearmsYou are "that guy". "That guy" that takes things to far and ruins them. Your thread is a pathetic, unoriginal copy. Don't be "that guy". I predict your thread goes away. You are "that guy".
LOL! Your thread is already gone. You are "that guy"!Comment
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This is primarily an issue of fed law.
in the strictest sense of the definition of AR pistol, no.
If said pistol is registered and has the correct tax stamp with the NFA as an AOW, then yes.
OR
If the length of your pistol is OVER 26inches, then yes.
By the fed definition, this makes your AR a Title 1 "other" long arm, still a pistol in Ca law._██_
(ಠ_ృ) riveting tale, chap.Comment
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