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  • seainc
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2011
    • 1209

    Can I shoot my AR pistol with Grip Pod attached?

    My feeling is NO just want to confirm with you guys. Thanks
  • #2
    MrPlink
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Mar 2010
    • 12532

    This is primarily an issue of fed law.

    in the strictest sense of the definition of AR pistol, no.

    If said pistol is registered and has the correct tax stamp with the NFA as an AOW, then yes.

    OR

    If the length of your pistol is OVER 26inches, then yes.
    By the fed definition, this makes your AR a Title 1 "other" long arm, still a pistol in Ca law.
    The California Moderate Centrist Militia member in exile

    disclaimer:
    everything I post is for arguendo and entertainment purposes only, and should not be construed to be legal advice

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    • #3
      Quiet
      retired Goon
      • Mar 2007
      • 30241

      Originally posted by MrPlink
      This is primarily an issue of fed law.

      in the strictest sense of the definition of AR pistol, no.

      If said pistol is registered and has the correct tax stamp with the NFA as an AOW, then yes.

      OR

      If the length of your pistol is OVER 26inches, then yes.
      By the fed definition, this makes your AR a Title 1 "other" long arm, still a pistol in Ca law.
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      "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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      • #4
        Capita159
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2007
        • 1516

        Doesn't it depend on the length of the barrel? If it's a short pistol barrel with a grip-pod, I think that will be classify as a "AOW", Any Other Weapon.
        "We are not human beings having a spiritual experience; we are spiritual beings having a human experience." - Pierre Teilhard de Chardin.

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        • #5
          The Virus
          Banned
          • May 2011
          • 1135

          You asked if you can shoot it, with a grip pod attached.
          It should not affect the guns ability to operate properly.

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          • #6
            that guy
            Member
            • Jun 2009
            • 201

            It is not an AOW if OAL is more than 26.3"

            If it is more than 26.3" like the Franklin Armory "pistol" and the "pistol" with a similar set up in the following posts then it is a Title 1 Fire Arm under federal law, but a pistol under California law. This configuration is kosher with the grippod.


            Originally posted by jchen76@gmail.com
            Only pistol with VFG that has a letter from ATF that stating it is not an AOW, is Franklin' Armory's AR pistol.



            Franklin Armory is a California & Nevada quality based AR-15 manufacturer. We offer quality, reliable firearms for civilians, law enforcement, & military agencies


            Here is the letter http://www.franklinarmory.com/XO-26_Letter__c_.pdf

            According to letter its OAL length of 26.3 inches and 10.5 inch barrel, it can not be concealed thus not an AOW.
            on the distinctions between the various flavors of firearms...

            Originally posted by Capybara
            Title I is an ordinary, unrestricted firearm, just like your 10/22 or your AR. We call it a Title I Firearm because of the classification of this gun by the ATF. As far as they are concerned, with an OAL of more than 26", this is not a pistol, but without a butt stock, it is obviously not a rifle. So what is it? It's not an AOW. So on the 4473, it is an "other" aka a "Title I Firearm".

            As far as California is concerned, it is a pistol and it was SSE transferred with a zero round sled. I know, it's confusing, isn't it?

            I salute Franklin Armory, who with their XO-26, received the ATF ruling that clarified this. I carry a copy of the ATF letter in this gun's case but it is encouraging, the range I shoot at sells the XO-26 and has one in their gun rental stock so seeing this gun at the range is becoming less and less of a novelty. This is the closes you can get to an SBR in California and while not as good, it is decent substitute.
            Originally posted by Capybara

            I hope this clarifies things.
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            • #7
              Arkangel
              Veteran Member
              • May 2010
              • 4458

              Originally posted by MrPlink
              This is primarily an issue of fed law.

              in the strictest sense of the definition of AR pistol, no.

              If said pistol is registered and has the correct tax stamp with the NFA as an AOW, then yes.

              OR

              If the length of your pistol is OVER 26inches, then yes.
              By the fed definition, this makes your AR a Title 1 "other" long arm, still a pistol in Ca law.
              Mr. Plink nailed it.
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