Bullet button glove

[djleisure]

Here is a big what if. What if I make my own glove with an actual bullet attched to the glove. Would that be legit?

Yes. Million dollar idea! JK
Read taperzx post right above yours.

[tonyxcom]

learn to read and maybe.you would not have wrote what you did

That's a pretty ironic statement from you. Maybe if you learned to write people could understand what you are saying.

juss.say'in.

[p1choco]

Yes. Million dollar idea! JK
Read taperzx post right above yours.

HAHA! Was just being dumb since it is a "bullet button" and I would be using a bullet..........for the button.....I'll be here all night folks.

[wguy00]

Wouldn't use one, common sense would dictate that a tool attached to your body is no longer a tool but an extension of the body. Although a grey area prob wouldn't want to be the first prosecuted by a over zealous DA.

So clipping one of these...

to your shirt would no longer make it a tool, but an extension to your body?

In that same train of thought...


Would taking something like ARToaster posted, but with only the bullet and keyring, and wearing the keyring around your finger like a normal ring, no longer makes it a tool?

[tonyxcom]

UBBT.

If you are in such a hurry to change a magazine that you need to tether a tool to yourself, then just put UBBT's on your magazines.

After all, after you grab the tool to drop the empty mag you are still going to have to grab the new mag. Why not just grab the new mag and use it to drop the empty one?

IMO, everything else is just so silly to argue about. None of these devices, including the damn bullet buttons themselves are CA DOJ approved, so arguing the hypotheticals of silly lanyards and necklaces and where they are attached is just a useless mind fkuc.

If the SHTF it all goes out the window anyway. (and I will give all my Raddlocks 3 turns counter clockwise while the rest of you put on necklaces or gloves with golf cleats, rivets or bite your fingernails into the shape of a bullet)

[taperxz]

UBBT.

If you are in such a hurry to change a magazine that you need to tether a tool to yourself, then just put UBBT's on your magazines.

After all, after you grab the tool to drop the empty mag you are still going to have to grab the new mag. Why not just grab the new mag and use it to drop the empty one?

IMO, everything else is just so silly to argue about. None of these devices, including the damn bullet buttons themselves are CA DOJ approved, so arguing the hypotheticals of silly lanyards and necklaces and where they are attached is just a useless mind fkuc.

If the SHTF it all goes out the window anyway. (and I will give all my Raddlocks 3 turns counter clockwise while the rest of you put on necklaces or gloves with golf cleats, rivets or bite your fingernails into the shape of a bullet)

They don't need to be approved. It effectively turns the firearm into a fixed magazine thus making it not part of the AWB.

Since there is case law saying that a bullet IS a tool for use on a bullet button... Its basically approved via case law.

[tonyxcom]

I get what you are saying as that much is obvious, but that isn't the point I was trying to hammer home.

[Quickdraw559]

OMG who are these people?

A bullet was determined to be "A" tool. Not the only tool. A mag magnet is designed to defeat the purpose of using a tool by adapting itself through magnetic energy thus defeating the need for a tool.

There are many different tools that can be used and no one has limited what tool can be used. A pen, awl, stick, bullet, screwdriver, ect. It can also be slung from the rifle as long as its not integrated into the performance of the rifle. Like a mag magnet.

Yea, but that's the real question. Is it not becoming one with the rifle due to the magnetic attraction? Would the magnetic attraction be considered a tool to attach it to the weapon? How would something magnetically attached be different than something attached by a bolt or screw? Does the law consider, "attached," as, "anything attached," or just something PERMANENTLY attached?

[shadowofnight]

I'm so glad 80% of my AR's are already setup featureless ( The only reason some are still bullet buttoned is I bought so many UBBT's and Magblocks , guess I could sell those and go 100% featureless )


While on this subject, could somebody with a youtube account leave this guy a comment to remove his video. He bought his lower in Stockton and lives in San Francisco, magmagnet installed for video.

Even has a " Opps, get that off of there " at 3:59 minutes

I am more interested in his 1/8" 10 round groups at 100 yards with 10-15 mph crosswinds and an open sighted 20" A2 DPMS upper ( Says its super easy with his 20", but would have to be a marksman to do it with a 16" barrel. ) .

[Fate]

some people will always place blame and also talk out of there a** about what they think they know.bla bla bla

Are you lumping me in that group? I'm inclined to believe you are.

[Metal Magic]

So by your own statement common sense would dictate that as soon as you put something in your hand it becomes part of your body.

LOL common sense would dictate sound and prudent judgment based on a simple perception of the situation or facts


Did you not catch the word attached? because picking up a tool in the hand and having a tool attached to the hand are very different in my opinion.

The role of the bullet button is to limit a weapons firepower through reloading speed and dropping mags at the push of a button seems to defeat that role.

I wouldn't use one, I wouldn't buy one . . . . I certainly won't recommend them.

[DinoPJR]

I was talking about ar bullet button gloves post who is selling them not you. As far as my logic goes I believe in doing things how they should be done. If I need to top load I'll top load. My shooting is done strictly on my private property and I have no need to change mags in an instant my paper targets don't attack. I just don't believe in these things that bring more attention to the issue than there already is.

This Dude sounds like a Libby!

[DinoPJR]

Personally if you are at a range. Just have an extra round on the table to release your mag. It cost 20 cents. Just get a shotgun for your home defense. Thats it. It is what it is. The gloves and magnets are for people who wanna push the law and feel bad***.

[artoaster]

Gloves and magnets are not in the same category, IMHO.

Agree that most AR usage by shooters is at a range on a table and for that a hand held ammunition cartridge or any other tool suffices.

For field shooting a tool (cartridge or tool) either secured by lanyard to wrist, belt loop or even rifle sling should be a reasonable solution.

And for carbine class work or for any kind of tactical weapon skill practice the UBBT is the only workable device I see as adaptable.

I can defend the UBBT based on the idea that the UBBT turns a 10 round magazine into an effective tool for detaching magazines from the locked mag release and that one cannot manipulate said release with the single UBBT equipped magazine in place but rather it requires a completely separate UBBT magazine to perform the action of unlocking.