H&K rifles

[Sturnovik]

That's pretty cool ^

I'll show him it. Thanks for the help thus far.

[jchen76@gmail.com]

No real advantage gain over di vs roller delayed. I owned a c93, and it was a heavy pig. Roller backs needed a heavy bolt carrier and huge recoil spring. Cocking a hk rifle was like stringing a cross brow. The only advantage I can see is it can run dirtier and reliably than an ar under same conditions.

[Sturnovik]

^sounds like just an exotic system than something way better than other systems.

He's looking at piston AR's at the moment. Are RRA entry level? Does colt put out a piston upper that's able to be bought?

[Ding126]

If he wants to shoot .223/5.56 then stick to an AR...as for a .308 HK style I would suggest a PTR..thats the only thing that might fit into his budget..mags are currently cheap...unlike the .223 HK style rifles.. I would tell him to pay more for the rifle and worry about stocking up on ammo later in life..you can have all the ammo in the world but if your rifle is a POS..what fun is that?

The only HK style rifle I would consider is a Springfield SAR 3 or 8 ( not the cast aluminum ) but the ones made in greece on HK tooling...or kick down some $$$ for a CA legal SR9 which are on the board here. Tell him to lurk around HKpro.com for education and info.
Good Luck

[brianm767]

C-93 are cool looking but are known for bolt gap issues out of the box, canted sights etc.. there is some one on the HK Forums who many guys send their new C-93's too for an overhaul new out of the box to get them to run 100%, I believe it's about $300 max depending on what it needs, could be much less, but your still under a grand for the rifle.

I was going to buy one but decided I didnt want the headaches so I'm going for a Vector V-93, should be 100% out of the box but ya never know.
I will be into it for $1200. I should be able to get that back in Cali if I decide to sale it later.

I also have a Daewoo DR200 that is 922R compliant so no funny thumbhole stock, I absolutely love this rifle, it's different, uses AR mags, there was a NIB one on Gunbroaker last week for $899.

[MrPlink]

How the hell does somebody who does not own a rifle prefer HK? Hand him a keltec and tell him its a new HK, and I bet he would be impressee

[Sturnovik]

How the hell does somebody who does not own a rifle prefer HK? Hand him a keltec and tell him its a new HK, and I bet he would be impressee

I've had major issues with my keltec, its the last rifle I'd show him, it'd probally make him change his mind about rifles all together. That said he's shot an HK rifle before and he likes the company, so lets say he's brand oriented. He's leaning toward a piston AR, he just wants something unique that everyone doesnt have, he realizes that may cost some serious cash.

C-93 are cool looking but are known for bolt gap issues out of the box, canted sights etc.. there is some one on the HK Forums who many guys send their new C-93's too for an overhaul new out of the box to get them to run 100%, I believe it's about $300 max depending on what it needs, could be much less, but your still under a grand for the rifle.

I was going to buy one but decided I didnt want the headaches so I'm going for a Vector V-93, should be 100% out of the box but ya never know.
I will be into it for $1200. I should be able to get that back in Cali if I decide to sale it later.

I also have a Daewoo DR200 that is 922R compliant so no funny thumbhole stock, I absolutely love this rifle, it's different, uses AR mags, there was a NIB one on Gunbroaker last week for $899.

The DR200 sounds neat!

If he wants to shoot .223/5.56 then stick to an AR...as for a .308 HK style I would suggest a PTR..thats the only thing that might fit into his budget..mags are currently cheap...unlike the .223 HK style rifles.. I would tell him to pay more for the rifle and worry about stocking up on ammo later in life..you can have all the ammo in the world but if your rifle is a POS..what fun is that?

The only HK style rifle I would consider is a Springfield SAR 3 or 8 ( not the cast aluminum ) but the ones made in greece on HK tooling...or kick down some $$$ for a CA legal SR9 which are on the board here. Tell him to lurk around HKpro.com for education and info.
Good Luck

I'm having him browse galleryofguns and a few other places to find stuff as we speak.

[starsnuffer]

Just tell him to get an AK. There's only one letter difference.

-W

[MrPlink]

I've had major issues with my keltec, its the last rifle I'd show him, it'd probally make him change his mind about rifles all together. That said he's shot an HK rifle before and he likes the company, so lets say he's brand oriented. He's leaning toward a piston AR, he just wants something unique that everyone doesnt have, he realizes that may cost some serious cash.

lol, hence me saying hand him the keltec

but something unique and AR rarely belong in the same sentence

[HKDoc]

Own both hk USC, not converted, and mr556. most friends I take to the range like the USC better. It's easy and fun to shoot. Not piston but cleans very easily. He should try one to see if he likes it.

[Sturnovik]

lol, hence me saying hand him the keltec

but something unique and AR rarely belong in the same sentence

Jesus I'm slow today haha, I thought you were serious! In any case he wants a flat top rail, not to heavy piston gun. He's confused though, do most piston ones come with a different gas block in front instead of front A2/m4 sight post gas thing? The ones he's been browsing seem to.

Own both hk USC, not converted, and mr556. most friends I take to the range like the USC better. It's easy and fun to shoot. Not piston but cleans very easily. He should try one to see if he likes it.

Yea the USC is a neat weapon.

[zombiescanlearn]

I have a H&K MR556 and I love it. If you can't afford the price tag then go for Sig 556 or 516. Those are quality guns as well and I've seen them advertise around $1200. I owned a Sig 556 in the past and it ran flawlessly. They're both fun to shoot. Good luck!

Sig 556


MR556


Shooting the H&K

[richzmn]

http://www.riflegear.com/p-959-hk-usc-rifle-45acp-165-barrel-10rd.aspx

[zombiescanlearn]

... Or your friend can just pick up an AK47. They're pretty sweet too. Here's mine:

[Sturnovik]

Yea he was interested in the Sig, and saw that one torture test video and thought it was impressive. I didnt realize they were that cheap, that very well may be a deal!

If I recall they are getting sued (I forget which one, the one thats more of a AR right?) over it though, he may have to buy one fast!