Barret .416 CA legal

[sir9usr]

Here's a recent thread on someone who just picked one up in Socal -

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=531063

I have an 82A1Cal in 50Bmg that Ronnie made specifically for Kali residents just prior to the 50BMG ban. It doesnt have a bullet button but the mag is "fixed" (swing down). The only physical difference is the muzzle brake. The .416 had to be redesigned to ensure the recoil mechanism works with the different cartridge.

M82s are really fun to shoot but are often mislabeled "precision rifles."

I agree - however, the longest verified kill with an M82 is 2500 yrds in Afghanistan. So it may not be labeled one but sure comes close

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longest_recorded_sniper_kills

[Dhena81]

If nothing else you've got to love Barrett's stance on CA.

[brando]

The optic is the key to the barret system. If you don't get the computerized optic (your choice of scopes) to go along with it, you're just wasting your time.

-W

What made you say that? Seriously, are you talking from experience or just saying what you think may be correct (ie speculating)?

[jimx]

LOL that's genius! I can imagine everyone clearing away when you pull that out of your range bag. Then all they hear when you pull the trigger is *plink*

Try putting a fake can on it.

[CSACANNONEER]

For $8K you can get a really nice precision 510 DTC with nice glass that will outshoot any 82A. My +$5K ALS upper on FAB10 lower in 50BMG shoots as well as .5moa at 1000yards, with me behind the trigger, during record matches. I've heard people talk about their 1moa 82s but, I've never seen or heard of one actually shoot 1 moa 5 shot groups during an event which can be verified or documented. 82As tend to be 2moa guns at best. That means the best groups they will shoot at 1000 yards are about 20"s. For just over half the price including an 8-32x NXS, I can shoot my ALS or my AR50 and end up with 6"-7" groups at 1000.

[CSACANNONEER]

The optic is the key to the barret system. If you don't get the computerized optic (your choice of scopes) to go along with it, you're just wasting your time.

-W

Bring it on. We are having a FCSA match the first weekend of June in Coalinga. If you really think you have the answer to precision shooting an 82, come prove it. I'll tell you what, if you outshoot me (and I'm a nobody who finishes middle of the pack or less), I'll pay for your match fees. Computerized optics are a complete waste of time when it comes to precision shooting.

[CSACANNONEER]

I agree - however, the longest verified kill with an M82 is 2500 yrds in Afghanistan. So it may not be labeled one but sure comes close

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longest...d_sniper_kills

You seem to be a bit confused about the difference between accuracy and precision. The fact is that no one ever talks about all the missed XLR shots or how many shots they took to sight in and/or walk their POI onto their target. Also, Carlos Hathcock held the XLR sniping record for years with a M2. He was good but still had a lot of luck on his side. The M2 is not what most would call anywhere near a precision gun yet, he was still able to make ONE awesome shot with it.

[phish]

i love the fact that they only made this caliber just to stick it to KALI....

not true

There was an article years ago when the round was first introduced. It was pure coincidence the .416 was in its final development stage when the .50 ban was passed in the legislature.

Ronnie Barrett just decided to use the situation to further market the .416 to us.

[elrey7698]

@phish i did not know that..thanx for the info...if my daughter decides to not go to college ill buy a couple of them...

[bomb_on_bus]

Well if you have the money why not! The ammo on the other hand is rather scarce but its out there. Same can be said if you plan on reloading it as well. Barrett makes ammo for the .416 but it aint cheap IIRC its something like 8-10 dollars a round.

The .416 from what I heard was going to be pretty much mothballed until CA gave the .50cal the banhammer so now theres a market for it here in CA and anywhere else the 50 is a no no. Of course there are plenty of ways around the CA ban.

[hemiguy55]

Well if you have the money why not! The ammo on the other hand is rather scarce but its out there. Same can be said if you plan on reloading it as well. Barrett makes ammo for the .416 but it aint cheap IIRC its something like 8-10 dollars a round.

The .416 from what I heard was going to be pretty much mothballed until CA gave the .50cal the banhammer so now theres a market for it here in CA and anywhere else the 50 is a no no. Of course there are plenty of ways around the CA ban.

is there a way to get a .416 barrett and swap it to a .50!!??! please say yes!

[justin_5585]

is there a way to get a .416 barrett and swap it to a .50!!??! please say yes!

Yes, but you'd then have an illegal weapon in california, unless you went with the .510 DTC...

[hemiguy55]

Yes, but you'd then have an illegal weapon in california, unless you went with the .510 DTC...

so theres no legal way to convert it to a .50 BMG? just a .510 DTC? does anyone here have a .510 DTC rifle?

[CSACANNONEER]

Barrett does not offer their guns in any of the different DTC chamberings. However, I do have a friend who is an 07FFL and he is working on making DTC conversions for Barretts.

[bomb_on_bus]

so theres no legal way to convert it to a .50 BMG? just a .510 DTC? does anyone here have a .510 DTC rifle?

DTC is the way to go for a shoulder fired .50cal. You can still own a .50BMG like the M2 semi auto.

As far as getting the .416 changed out to .50BMG that is a no no in CA as that would create a shoulder fired BMG after the ban went into effect. Many people here have BMGs before the ban went into effect and are good to go.
Also you can get an upper chambered for the BMG and slap it on a AR lower.

CSACANNONER would be the go to guy for getting steered in the right direction with what your wanting to know. Also MrKubota has some good info as well.