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  • Hunt
    Veteran Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 4833

    How light can I get an AR10 ?

    in the $1,500 or less range less than 7 lbs?
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    Gunsrruss
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2006
    • 1488

    Light???

    Just remember your dealing with a .308 cal weapon. Lighter is not your friend. Even a AR-15 does better accuracy wise with a little weight on it. I guess you will seeYou will learn what it is that you will need. I use to have visions of this and that. That was when I bought it the first time. Then I realized what I needed and had to buy it the second time These days we put more thought into these things. We listen to the Master young grasshopper
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    • #3
      Hoop
      Ready fo HILLARY!!
      • Apr 2007
      • 11534

      Originally posted by Hunt
      in the $1,500 or less range less than 7 lbs?
      No.

      8.5 is more realistic.

      Mine is 9.5 without bipod or scope, loaded. It isn't any harder to shoot offhand than any other semi 308 I've owned or shot (m1a, garand, fn fal).

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      • #4
        Hunt
        Veteran Member
        • Sep 2009
        • 4833

        if that is the case than I assume a AR10 wouldn't handle any quicker than an M1A, the reason I ask is I want a semi auto rifle that has considerable more energy than the .223, yet agile enough for home/ ranch security way out in the boonies.
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        • #5
          Merc1138
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          • Feb 2009
          • 19742

          Originally posted by Hunt
          if that is the case than I assume a AR10 wouldn't handle any quicker than an M1A, the reason I ask is I want a semi auto rifle that has considerable more energy than the .223, yet agile enough for home/ ranch security way out in the boonies.
          In a semi-auto? No. Even with a bolt action you're going to be looking at 6-7 pounds unloaded and without optics. The only way you'd get the weight down to what you're looking for is an SBR and even if you cut the barrel in half you'd be around what you want(maybe), of course that's not going to happen in CA(and you'd end up losing a lot of velocity). You could end up with a .308 AR-10 pistol, but that's going to cost you $$$$.

          Plus, as other people have pointed out, even if you were able to get the weight down(without making it an SBR), you'd still be shooting a .308 and have to deal with the recoil.

          There is the PTR-91 PDW though..., but even with no stock and an 8" barrel it's still 7.5 pounds.
          Last edited by Merc1138; 12-01-2011, 10:23 PM.

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          • #6
            Uriah02
            Veteran Member
            • Sep 2009
            • 3149

            If the concern is faster reaction time/speed I'd think a shorter barrel would improve preformance more than a lighter weapon. You can always get stronger. The shorter barrel would also cut weight a fair amount of weight.
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            • #7
              McCrown
              Member
              • Nov 2008
              • 418

              Less than 7lbs might be doable with some hand picking and research. DPMS sells a lr-308 that is 7.9lbs empty w/18" barrel. Might want to look into it. The upper alone for that one runs around $1000.

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              • #8
                1911su16b870
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                CGN Contributor
                • Dec 2006
                • 7654

                IMO No way can you get a new AR10 for under 1500.
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                • #9
                  Merc1138
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 19742

                  Originally posted by 1911su16b870
                  IMO No way can you get a new AR10 for under 1500.
                  Well apparently your opinion is wrong, because you can build one for under $1500. DPMS sells 4 uppers for under $900(and one just a little over $600), combine that with a lower and parts kit, yes you can build a new AR-10 for under $1500. Just not under 7 pounds like the OP wants. I suppose technically that would be a DPMS LR-308 and not a true AR-10 pattern. Well you can get that under $1500 too http://www.armalite.com/ItemForm.asp...0-49488ec48776
                  Last edited by Merc1138; 12-02-2011, 2:34 PM.

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                  • #10
                    dan12580
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 1241

                    Originally posted by 1911su16b870
                    IMO No way can you get a new AR10 for under 1500.
                    Dpms sass lower with adjustable triggar, ace adjustable socom stock, 16 in sportical upper with 13 in Troy battle rail ran me about $1500. I was going for a light weight pig gun. I haven't weighed it yet. I bought the complete sass gun for $1700 and sold the complete upper for $1400. Sold the prs stock and bought the socom. A complete ar10 can easily be had in the $1k range.
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                    • #11
                      smeagle
                      Junior Member
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 71

                      i dont think i have seen or heard of a 7 lb ar-10, my ma-ten/jp 16" with a aimpoint comp m3 is 9.5 lbs, dont think i could shave 2 lbs off it.. mine has $2500 in it w/o optics.. it feels lighter than most 10's i have picked up also...

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                      • #12
                        gemini1
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 2229

                        Bushmaster 308 MOE
                        Cash/Check Discount Price:
                        Price: $1,101.88



                        SPECIFICATIONS:
                        Mfg Item Num: 90828
                        Category: FIREARMS - RIFLES
                        Action :Semi-Automatic
                        Caliber :308 Winchester
                        Barrel Length :16"
                        Capacity :20 + 1
                        Trigger :Standard
                        Safety :Lever
                        Length :34"
                        Weight :7.75 lbs
                        Stock :Collapsible
                        Finish :Matte Black

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                        • #13
                          Merc1138
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 19742

                          Originally posted by gemini1
                          Bushmaster 308 MOE
                          Cash/Check Discount Price:
                          Price: $1,101.88



                          SPECIFICATIONS:

                          Weight :7.75 lbs
                          And that's still not under 7.

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                          • #14
                            WDE91
                            Veteran Member
                            • Jul 2010
                            • 3513

                            Originally posted by gemini1
                            Bushmaster 308 MOE
                            Cash/Check Discount Price:
                            Price: $1,101.88



                            SPECIFICATIONS:
                            Mfg Item Num: 90828
                            Category: FIREARMS - RIFLES
                            Action :Semi-Automatic
                            Caliber :308 Winchester
                            Barrel Length :16"
                            Capacity :20 + 1
                            Trigger :Standard
                            Safety :Lever
                            Length :34"
                            Weight :7.75 lbs
                            Stock :Collapsible
                            Finish :Matte Black
                            that rifle pictured sure doesnt look like an AR10 to me

                            Have you considered an AR15 with like a 6.5 Grendal upper when out on the property?
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                            • #15
                              wash
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Aug 2007
                              • 9011

                              You could wait, like me for the ITS-12 DPMS style upper.

                              It's a hybrid that uses a special bolt, barrel extension, extended AR15 style bolt carrier and a barrel that isn't a pencil profile or super short to make a less than 7.5 lb .308 AR.

                              The fact is standard AR10 type uppers are very heavy and 16" barrels are obnoxious on a .308. The ITS-12 takes out the weight in the bolt and bolt carrier rather than giving you a barrel as stiff as a noodle and as short as the law allows.
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