AR rifle with detachable magazines & pistol grip - any guesses ?

[SFV_Dealer]

Alright, so the question is:
Does anyone know how we Californians can get detachable magazine, pistol gripped, collapsible stocked, flash hider AR pattern rifle legally and comply with 12276.1 PC ???

Here are some snapshots of our prototype rifle that is legal for detachable magazine use:
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If you know or don't know, you can see and touch this at the Ventura Gun Show !

[Cobrarlc]

The rifle is a 22lr upper with a Ceiner bolt conversion and magazine. The 22lr Ceiner 10 rnd mag has been installed in a normal mag body.
Looks good to go.

[4 Brigada]

The rifle is a 22lr upper with a Ceiner bolt conversion and magazine. The 22lr Ceiner mag has been installed in a normal mag body.
Looks good to go.

Very nice, is it chambered for the .22LR only, cause I have conversion kit and there is post on the legality of the detachable magazine, if it uses a conversion instead of a dedicated 22LR barrel/upper. pretty interesting I learned a lot but Im still on the fence

[NSR500]

.22 FTW!

[tteng]

Anybody thought of rim-fired 223 cartridge and modified bolt(expense aside)? Would they be legal?

[jandmtv]

Pat, thats the one i saw when i was at your store right? did you guys take it out to the range to try it out?

[larryb]

So how much $$$$$$ are we looking at. Defintely a nice set up.

[ohsmily]

Anybody thought of rim-fired 223 cartridge and modified bolt(expense aside)? Would they be legal?

It isn't physically practical for all practical purposes.

In order for a round to be rimfire, the rim/case must be thin enough for a firing pin to set it off. However, for a round to be potent and powerful (like 223/5.56) the case must be thick enough to contain the pressure. A rimfire 223 won't work.

[!@#$]

It isn't physically practical for all practical purposes.

In order for a round to be rimfire, the rim/case must be thin enough for a firing pin to set it off. However, for a round to be potent and powerful (like 223/5.56) the case must be thick enough to contain the pressure. A rimfire 223 won't work.

aguila was messing around with this before sb23 passed. i don't think it went well...

[TacFan]

this thread is worthless without prices

[SFV_Dealer]

OK, This rifle is a 22LR dedicated AR rifle. That is how you can have a detachable magazine AR rifle!

The lower is a SABRE DEFENCE XR15 marked ".22 CAL RIMFIRE" and we have 100 on order - exclusive to us only!

The upper is a Olympic Arms .22LR marked barrel that actually is cut for .221 bullets (not .223 barrel using an adapter bolt carrier like the Colt or CZ). This dedicated upper has better accuracy and for cost effective training with detachable magazines.

The magazine is a 10 rd Olympic Arms 22LR mag inside a 30/10rd mag body.

Prices are still not available as this is a prototype unit. We are testing with a variety of ammunition from subsonic to hypervelocity 22LR ammunition.

Please keep watch on my website when the first 100 will be up for sale!

[paradox]

It isn't physically practical for all practical purposes.

In order for a round to be rimfire, the rim/case must be thin enough for a firing pin to set it off. However, for a round to be potent and powerful (like 223/5.56) the case must be thick enough to contain the pressure. A rimfire 223 won't work.

Armalite seems to think otherwise...

http://calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=41930

[larryb]

OK, This rifle is a 22LR dedicated AR rifle. That is how you can have a detachable magazine AR rifle!

The lower is a SABRE DEFENCE XR15 marked ".22 CAL RIMFIRE" and we have 100 on order - exclusive to us only!

The upper is a Olympic Arms .22LR marked barrel that actually is cut for .221 bullets (not .223 barrel using an adapter bolt carrier like the Colt or CZ). This dedicated upper has better accuracy and for cost effective training with detachable magazines.

The magazine is a 10 rd Olympic Arms 22LR mag inside a 30/10rd mag body.

Prices are still not available as this is a prototype unit. We are testing with a variety of ammunition from subsonic to hypervelocity 22LR ammunition.

Please keep watch on my website when the first 100 will be up for sale!

Any chance of rough estimate as far as pricing. I may have to put future gun purchases on hold till this is released

[sloguy]

i am confused. whats wrong with using a rimfire kit in a ar with sb23 features?

[smogcity]

Count me in for one, what is the ETA?