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    ExtremeX
    Calguns Addict
    • Sep 2010
    • 7160

    PDW in CA ... any options?

    PDW (Personal Defense Weapons)

    Personal defense weapon - Wikipedia
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_defense_weapon


    Pistols and Rifles... and nothing in between...

    I'm really not sure if this should be in the rifle or handgun section as the only thing that really fits the size/application are things like AR or AK pistols.

    I was thinking of an AR pistol in 9mm or .40... Maybe even the RRA piston system that doesn't have the typical buffer tube seen in the AR pistols...

    Rock River Arms
    http://www.rockriverarms.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_id=441
    Rock River Arms, Inc. offers a complete line of American made, custom built AR15 style rifles.


    Anyone have any insight into this?

    I not a ballistics noob so I'm not really looking for reasons why an AR pistols sucks. I get the round is seriously inefficient due to barrel length in both velocity and range...

    Since we cant really have SBRs here, are there any options besides something like this?
    ExtremeX
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      RRichie09
      Veteran Member
      • Apr 2010
      • 2592
      AR pistol in 6.8?

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        • #3
          223556
          Veteran Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 3343
          AR Pistol in any caliber you can make it in is the only way for CA that would be the easiest I think...
          "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

          "Between your faith and my Glock 9mm I'll take the Glock."
          - Arnold Schawarzenegger (End of Days)

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            • #4
              ExtremeX
              Calguns Addict
              • Sep 2010
              • 7160
              AR pistol seems like the way to go, im just wondering if there is anything else out there. Im also considering a bulpup type design, but I still think it might be too long...

              Caliber wise I would pick something I would actually buy/shoot often. I'm a fan of standardization, and I have a lot of 5.56 and 9mm. .40 seems like better round for a AR pistol tho.

              6.8 sounds good, but I think I wouldn't use it as much due to ammo costs.
              ExtremeX

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                • #5
                  RRichie09
                  Veteran Member
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 2592
                  Why do you want a PDW?

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                    • #6
                      ExtremeX
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 7160
                      Fill the gap... I cant have an SBR so I'm looking for the next best thing.

                      The thread was more for discussion, chances I would actually buy an AR pistol are pretty slim as there are a lot of other things I like and rather have. I know its not very practical.

                      But I like to know my options...
                      ExtremeX

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                        • #7
                          RRichie09
                          Veteran Member
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 2592
                          Originally posted by ExtremeX
                          Fill the gap... I cant have an SBR so I'm looking for the next best thing.

                          The thread was more for discussion, chances I would actually buy an AR pistol are pretty slim as there are a lot of other things I like and rather have. I know its not very practical.

                          But I like to know my options...
                          Yeah it sucks. I have plans to build a 11.5" AR pistol that I will convert to an SBR as soon as we regain our freedom, but just like you those are plans for the future. Some many guns... not enough money

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                            • #8
                              Quiet
                              retired Goon
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 30239
                              M-1 Carbine.
                              The US Militaries first PDW.
                              sigpic

                              "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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                                • #9
                                  OHW
                                  Member
                                  • Feb 2009
                                  • 386
                                  Draco

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                                    • #10
                                      starsnuffer
                                      Senior Member
                                      • Apr 2011
                                      • 2212
                                      I like that AR57 pistol that someone has posted.

                                      Draco's require a sling and tension to be accurate, it's not really a one handed weapon. Now a 5.7 in a well balanced package can actually be used one handed to shoot your wife when she turns into a zombie while driving down the highway in your Prius at 63.4MPH, and actually have a chance to score a headshot.

                                      -W

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                                        • #11
                                          TheExpertish
                                          Veteran Member
                                          • Jul 2011
                                          • 3451
                                          Originally posted by ExtremeX
                                          PDW (Personal Defense Weapons)

                                          Personal defense weapon - Wikipedia
                                          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_defense_weapon


                                          Pistols and Rifles... and nothing in between...

                                          I'm really not sure if this should be in the rifle or handgun section as the only thing that really fits the size/application are things like AR or AK pistols.

                                          I was thinking of an AR pistol in 9mm or .40... Maybe even the RRA piston system that doesn't have the typical buffer tube seen in the AR pistols...

                                          Rock River Arms
                                          http://www.rockriverarms.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_id=441
                                          Rock River Arms, Inc. offers a complete line of American made, custom built AR15 style rifles.


                                          Anyone have any insight into this?

                                          I not a ballistics noob so I'm not really looking for reasons why an AR pistols sucks. I get the round is seriously inefficient due to barrel length in both velocity and range...

                                          Since we cant really have SBRs here, are there any options besides something like this?
                                          What's your purpose? Is this more of a novelty or you have a specific goal and role to fill?
                                          sigpic
                                          Originally posted by starsnuffer
                                          It's an HK, I could lube it with sand and superglue and it'd work just fine.

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                                            • #12
                                              21SF
                                              Veteran Member
                                              • Oct 2010
                                              • 3491
                                              Hit up your local PD i hear they have lots of MP5....
                                              SA TRP Half rail, Glock 21SF, Spikes St-15, Ruger Alaskan .44, Saiga 7.62, GSSF Member
                                              Diablo Rod & Gun Club
                                              Originally posted by keenkeen
                                              "What you've just posted is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read. At no point in your rambling, incoherent post were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this forum is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

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                                                • #13
                                                  m03
                                                  Senior Member
                                                  • Nov 2007
                                                  • 1908
                                                  Uselessness and caliber concerns aside, there' always the Vector V51 or a FAL pistol

                                                  Semi-random images found via Google:


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                                                    • #14
                                                      OHW
                                                      Member
                                                      • Feb 2009
                                                      • 386
                                                      So Gads are you appointted as investigator ? LEO is here to catch all who want PDWs for ????

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                                                        • #15
                                                          m03
                                                          Senior Member
                                                          • Nov 2007
                                                          • 1908
                                                          Originally posted by OHW
                                                          So Gads are you appointted as investigator ? LEO is here to catch all who want PDWs for ????
                                                          Wow, paranoid much? I think asking about the intended role of a weapon helps with suggesting which one to purchase.

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