Should I Recce or SPR?

[FMJBT]

Can you guys tell me what kind of scopes you have on these rifles? I'm going for these shorter compact scopes.

The 16" is using a Vector Optics 1-6X28 FFP scope. The jury is still out on this one. It has some features that I really like (1-6X), but has some flaws that are hard to get over (reticle sized incorrectly for ranging and holdovers).

The 18" has a Leatherwood CMR 1-4X mounted via an ADM Recon mount. For the money, I think this is one of the best 1-4X scopes on the market. Very clear glass, and a nice BDC reticle.

One thing I've noticed about low power variable optics though, is that on the 1X setting, none that I have tried are as easy or fast to use as a dedicated red dot sight. The eye seems to take longer to focus through a scope than a red dot, at least for me. The dual optic setup definitely has some advantages. My next build will probably use a 2.5-10X scope or similar coupled with a mini red dot sight mounted either above it or canted to the side.

[Heiko]

To me, it depends on what else you've got in the safe, especially in the AR department. I already have 16" M4 style ARs and while not done as RECCE style, they sort of fit the more compact AR role. That is why I decided to build a SPR with its 18" barrel. I just wanted something different and accurate beyond typical ARs.
LaRue Stealth complete upper with Leupold Mark 4 3-9x36 MR scope. 18" barrel with 13.2" rail.

[Omega13device]

What does Recce mean?

This is the by far the best explanation of Recce that I've seen: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=recce

[Doctawho]

What does Recce mean?

I believe Reece is a 16" mid-length barrel.

[RONIN.]

recce would be referring to the SEAL RECON RIFLE which is a 16" heavy barreled carbine, normally topped with a scope anywhere from fixed 4x acog, al the way to a 2.5-10 nightforce, depending on the operators preference..

as for OPs question, i would go for a SPR build personally, with a nice heavy 1/7 or 1/8 twist stainless barrel.. and send 77grain projectiles down range.. and i do think that you will want more magnification then 4x....

i run a 2.5-10 nightforce on my 18" spr

[Dhena81]

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Optics choice is what makes a rifle a DMR.

I've heard that the Recce comes with a CL barrel and a SPR wears a SS barrel I don't know if that's true. But I really don't care nor should you unless your trying to replicate a military arm. But military or not since this is a personal rifle and the last time I checked this is a free country so do what you want and if you want accuracy go SS.

I think the Recce is the best overall choice you don't get much more range with an extra 2" of barrel. Ammo choice will make the most difference if you want really long range you need to go with a boat tail bullet so you can more reliably hit target beyond the bullets transonic range. What transonic means in this case and in the most basic form I can think of is when the bullet is transitioning from the speed of sound to not. For example like a M855 bullet might not be accurate at that range because there are parts of the bullet that air is moving at the speed of sound and parts that are not making it unstable.

[keson]

I've had both but I ended up keeping my SPR's.

[EvolutionGSR]

Looks like most peiple are recommending I go with more than 4x. But i really want the scope to be a bit compact like those i inquired about above, esp that vector 1-6x. Is there a 9x around that size? Also, i dont have a problem hitting 3-400 yard plates with a non magnified compm4 out of a 14.5 in barrel on a bipod., which is why i dont think i needed more than 4x.

I also want to point out that im not planning on spending the $ on a NF scope. The most expensive glass i will go with would be the leupy i linked earlier in the thread.

[Droppin Deuces]

Looks like most peiple are recommending I go with more than 4x. But i really want the scope to be a bit compact like those i inquired about above, esp that vector 1-6x. Is there a 9x around that size? Also, i dont have a problem hitting 3-400 yard plates with a non magnified compm4 out of a 14.5 in barrel on a bipod., which is why i dont think i needed more than 4x.

I also want to point out that im not planning on spending the $ on a NF scope. The most expensive glass i will go with would be the leupy i linked earlier in the thread.

I have always said that the 1-4x optic is the best all around scope for an AR, but if you plan to mount a mini/micro red dot of some sort along side your scope - and especially on a gun like these - I would suggest at least going with a 3-9x. That way you aren't being redundant with two 1x optics and instead have two optics that compliment and extend eachother's capabilities. The VX-R's are very nice, but if I were getting one for an SPR or RECCE rifle, I'd go with the 3-9x version. Maybe get out and try the type of shooting you're going to do with the types of scopes you're considering first.

Also, at 9x-10x you have the advantage of being able to make finer holdover adjustments and seeing your hits at that 500-600 yard target range instead of maybe just hearing them.

[762.DEFENSE]

You could easily go with a "RECCE" build, over a SPR for your specifications and demands.

[Calgunner217]

Recon, Recce AR15.

Here's my latest bulid, a Recon, Recce rifle. I used a Wilson Match Grade Barrel, 5.56 NATO, 16", 1-7 Twist, Stainless Barrel. I paired it up with an Acog. I think the limit for the Acog would be around the 600 meters, being only a 4x fixed scope. I have not had the chance to shoot it yet. My next build will be a 18" SPR type build paired with a Leupold 2.5-8x-36 MR/T.

[EvolutionGSR]

This is still a tough call. Im leaning toward a recce with no micro, still using a 4x.

How hard is it to assemble your own upper group?

[FMJBT]

This is still a tough call. Im leaning toward a recce with no micro, still using a 4x.

How hard is it to assemble your own upper group?

It's hard to go wrong either way. Both are great designs for an all around rifle that will do literally everything. The only bad part about that though, is that afterwards it's really hard to justify building another AR-15 for CQB, Long Range, Home Defense, etc. because the RECCE or SPR will do all those functions reasonably well. Really the only direction to go after building one of these is either pistol, or 24" bull barrel

Uppers are easy to put together. If you can change a car tire, you can put together an upper. Just make sure to get the right tools for the job