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  • EvolutionGSR
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2005
    • 1555

    Should I Recce or SPR?

    Im itching to build something in 5.56 to hit the 500 or 600 yard plates at ASR. I like the recce and spr concept styles, but I dont want to make both as i feel that they are close enough to do the same job. I want to top it with a lower powered compact scope like this: http://swfa.com:80/Leupold-125-4x20-...pe-P49444.aspx.

    My definition of the recce would be 16 in middy chrome lined barrel with full length railed 12 in handguard. Spr would be 18 in. Stainless barrel rifle gas with full length, not neccesarily full railed like trx handguard.
    So what would you build and why?
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    jumbopanda
    Calguns Addict
    • Aug 2006
    • 8382

    Get a 16" stainless/match grade barrel. Chrome lined ones generally offer inferior accuracy. Velocity wise, 16" vs. 18" does not change much.
    Mo' BBs.

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    • #3
      EvolutionGSR
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2005
      • 1555

      So ... I should build a reccspr. Thats another idea.

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      • #4
        jumbopanda
        Calguns Addict
        • Aug 2006
        • 8382

        I recently got a 16" upper from superiorbarrels.com. They offer a Douglas (chrome moly) barrel with a proprietary coating that they dubbed "Hard Blue". I'm guessing that it's some variation of a nitrocarburizing treatment, but I'm not sure. It's supposed to greatly extend the life of a barrel and improve corrosion resistance (like chrome lining) without sacrificing accuracy. The test targets showed 10 round groups just under 1 MOA at 100yd, and they also included a golf ball that they shot at 300yd. Unfortunately, I have not gotten to shoot it much yet because I had to send the handguard (Troy TRX Extreme 13") back to the manufacturer to figure out if it was defective.
        Last edited by jumbopanda; 06-29-2011, 1:30 PM.
        Mo' BBs.

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        • #5
          Droppin Deuces
          Calguns Addict
          • Jan 2010
          • 5969

          I have more or less what you're talking about(16"/1:8/Wylde) except with a 3-9x40 scope instead of the 1-4x. I used to have a 1-4x and wasn't satisfied with it for the type of shooting I do, which is..well...shooting 500-600 yard steel.


          Last edited by Droppin Deuces; 06-29-2011, 4:13 PM.
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          • #6
            EvolutionGSR
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2005
            • 1555

            That looks nice. Hmmm gives me some ideas. I'm also thinking of putting on a 1 o'clock micro reflex sight.

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            • #7
              louscamaro91
              Veteran Member
              • Aug 2007
              • 3522

              What does Recce mean?

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              • #8
                EvolutionGSR
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2005
                • 1555

                Originally posted by louscamaro91
                What does Recce mean?
                Not exactly sure, seems pretty open to interpretation. I go by anything set up similarly to what Bravo Company and Noveske label as their Recce builds. The only common themes they have are 16" chrome lined barrels with handguard rails.

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                • #9
                  Droppin Deuces
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 5969

                  Originally posted by EvolutionGSR
                  That looks nice. Hmmm gives me some ideas. I'm also thinking of putting on a 1 o'clock micro reflex sight.
                  That was something that I had originally planned to do, but I couldn't justify it. This is really just a bench gun for me(and a very good one). That VFG hardly ever gets touched. I might change the stock eventually for something a little onger, but I really like the M4 stocks - especially the LMT version that I have on there. They are rock solid.
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                  • #10
                    Scott Connors
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 879

                    Originally posted by louscamaro91
                    What does Recce mean?
                    "Recce" is the British equivalent of "recon," as in "Take two men and recce the bridge."
                    "If a person who indulges in gluttony is a glutton, and a person who commits a felony is a felon, then God is an iron."--Spider Robinson.
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                    • #11
                      FMJBT
                      Veteran Member
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 4888

                      I ended up building one of each. They're set up slightly different, but in terms of performance they are almost identical. The "SPR" was built up using a DPMS 18" Mark 12 barrel, which considering the price is an outstanding barrel. Accuracy at 100 yards with Black Hills 75 grain loads is right at 3/4 to 1" and the overall weight is just under 11 pounds with an empty mag.

                      The "RECCE" is built around a Sabre Defense 16" fluted stainless barrel with mid length gas system. Accuracy is pretty much identical the the DPMS Mark 12 barrel. Overall weight is also just under 11 pounds. I owe this mostly to the Troy 13.8" MRF railed forend. If I were going to do it over, I'd opt for a Midwest SS forend, either 12" or 15" length for a substantial weight savings over the Troy.

                      In the long range department, both rifles will easily hit a 11" X 18" steel plate at 650 yards out. Once you get the wind figured out, it's actually kind of boring after a while.

                      I would say build whichever one you want, but I would suggest going with a stainless barrel over a chrome lined if you are wanting to maximize accuracy.

                      16" "RECCE"


                      18" "SPR"
                      U.S. Navy (Retired) 1994-2015

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                      • #12
                        OutlawDon
                        Veteran Member
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 3138

                        I've done them all....go with the 16". Compact yet just as fun and deadly. But you can't go wrong either way. Purely preference.

                        As mentioned, go with a STAINLESS barrel either choice...realize the barrel is the heart of the rifle, and is what makes a Reece or SPR what it is...an accurized AR15. Choosing a chrome lined barrel will not be true to the origins of them.

                        16" flavors...






                        18" SPR...
                        Last edited by OutlawDon; 06-29-2011, 9:06 PM.

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                        • #13
                          EvolutionGSR
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 1555

                          Originally posted by OutlawDon
                          I've done them all....go with the 16". Compact yet just as fun and deadly. But you can't go wrong either way. Purely preference.


                          Originally posted by FMJBT

                          16" "RECCE"


                          18" "SPR"
                          Can you guys tell me what kind of scopes you have on these rifles? I'm going for these shorter compact scopes.

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                          • #14
                            OutlawDon
                            Veteran Member
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 3138

                            Mine is a Burris TAC30 1-4x.

                            Google it...highly rated for its price.

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                              arsilva32
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 863

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