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  • philthy209
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2007
    • 1797

    newbie guy from central cali.

    hey everyone. i'm new to this forum usually on ar15.com but everyone has less limitations with there setups there so i'll give this forum a shot as we all have to deal with the same ultra restrictive California crap.

    my question is what is a bullet button for the ar15? is it really legal? i think it is a magazine release button that requires a bullet to press the button thus constuting a tool thus being legal in cali. am i wrong? anyone run these.

    thanks for the time and hope my first question doesn't have you guys rolling your eyes.

    phil
  • #2
    mltrading
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2006
    • 1251

    Welcome aboard.

    The BB is a device to lock a magazine in the receiver but allows to remove the magazine with a tool (such as bullet tip). Just run some search and you will get tons of info.
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    • #3
      WokMaster1
      Part time Emperor
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Mar 2006
      • 5436

      if you insist......

      welcome to Cowguns
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      • #4
        philthy209
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2007
        • 1797

        thanks guys.

        as soon as i posted i found the huge amount of info on this topic. sorry for the repost.

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        • #5
          philthy209
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2007
          • 1797

          is anyone using this? how do you like it? any vendors you can suggest? price?

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          • #6
            DedEye
            Calguns Addict
            • Nov 2006
            • 8655

            Cold War Shooters and Ten Percent Firearms carry them ~$20. I don't have one but have used them, very nice for dropping mags. Can only be used with 10 rounders though.
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            Stop duping answers, help expand the FAQ.

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            • #7
              .223
              Member
              • Oct 2006
              • 446

              Welcome to the forum

              If you travel to free states, you may also want to look into the Prince50 kit. You're forced to load from the top while it's attached in CA, but with a few turns of an allen key, it works just like any other mag release button (just don't do that in California or your rifle is then converted to a baby-killing mag-loaded high capacity .50BMG assault sniping carbine).

              If you have any standard-cap mags laying around from before the ban, you may also be interested in the MonsterMan grip or the U-15 stock. No evil features + free to use "detachable" magazines of any capacity.

              You can run a search for the bullet button or any of the products I just mentioned on this forum. We've had a few threads outlining exactly how they're legal and what setups to use them in.
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              • #8
                pulserifle99
                Member
                • Mar 2006
                • 422

                what part of central cali are you from?

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                • #9
                  niceguy
                  Member
                  • Jun 2007
                  • 171

                  ""If you have any standard-cap mags laying around from before the ban, you may also be interested in the MonsterMan grip or the U-15 stock. No evil features + free to use "detachable" magazines of any capacity.""

                  I have , aHEM, REGistered AW... and old Valmet 223... with a 15 and 2 30rd mags from before the ban. I've always thought that I could use those 3 mags because of their age and the registration of the weapon. Your note on the MM made me wonder. I'm cool with what I have, right?
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                  • #10
                    philthy209
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 1797

                    i live in central california (209)

                    my lower reciever already has a mag perminately atached so thats gonna be a pain to deal if i do this but even if you were not running a pistol grip you still can only have a ten round clip right?

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                    • #11
                      DedEye
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 8655

                      Originally posted by philthy209
                      i live in central california (209)

                      my lower reciever already has a mag perminately atached so thats gonna be a pain to deal if i do this but even if you were not running a pistol grip you still can only have a ten round clip right?
                      No evil featuers (such as a pistol grip) = 10 rounders, 30 rounders, whatever you want.

                      Sorry, gotta do it...

                      These posts are Fiction. They do not contain legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer. Any resemblance to real persons are pure coincidence. These posts may pose an inhalation hazard, reading can be harmful or fatal. No statements made on this forum are meant to represent any corporate or business entity, others, or myself. Especially not myself.

                      Stop duping answers, help expand the FAQ.

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                      • #12
                        inda_bebe
                        Member
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 335

                        Originally posted by .223
                        Welcome to the forum

                        If you have any standard-cap mags laying around from before the ban, you may also be interested in the MonsterMan grip or the U-15 stock. No evil features + free to use "detachable" magazines of any capacity.
                        i have hi cap magazines from before 2000 THAT IVE ALWAYS HAD. isnt it okay to use even w/ a pistol grip?
                        WTB: front flip sight/ gas block... Flat top upper receiver.

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                        • #13
                          ar15barrels
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 56937

                          Originally posted by inda_bebe
                          i have hi cap magazines from before 2000 THAT IVE ALWAYS HAD. isnt it okay to use even w/ a pistol grip?
                          If you want to use a "large capacity magazine", you can NOT have a pistol grip, collapsible stock or flash suppressor.
                          Combining the hicap mag with any of those features creates an "assault weapon"

                          If you want to use hicap mags, you will need to do a featureless build.
                          Monsterman Grip or U15 stock are the easiest ways to acomplish this.
                          Randall Rausch

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                          • #14
                            Lateralus
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Sep 2006
                            • 2041

                            does anyone read the FAQ anymore?

                            Yes, the BB is legal as you need a tool to remove the magazine.

                            With evil features you cannot have hi cap mags fixed in there.

                            Does anyone use the bullet button? Check the .223 pics section. Everyone and their mother has one.
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                            • #15
                              ar15barrels
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Jan 2006
                              • 56937

                              Originally posted by Lateralus
                              does anyone read the FAQ anymore?
                              Not just anymore.
                              They never do right from the start...
                              Randall Rausch

                              AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                              Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                              Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                              Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                              Most work performed while-you-wait.

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