Del-ton or Daniel Defense?

[Cyc Wid It]

If you ask people who have attended real classes or look around the review threads, you'll notice that nobody runs Del-Tons. On the third day of the full moon you might see a Stag. All depends on what you want to do.

[javalos]

DelTon is offering a 16" M4 1x7 CMV Chrome Lined Barrel Assembly for $379.00 each, normally $460.00 saving you $81.00. These feature Chrome Lined Chrome Moly Vanadium Barrels, MP/HP Tested Bolts, F-Marked Front Sight Base and M4 Feed Ramps. Each one is built to order, head-spaced, test fired and quality controlled before shipping. To check it out, here's the link: https://www.del-ton.com/ProductDetai...uctCode=DT1028

My two cents on whether you should get a DelTon vs. Daniel Defense depends on what kind of shooting you will do and how much of it. If recreational and a rifle to protect the family in case of an emergency, DelTon will do just fine. If you plan on taking a carbine class and plan to do hard tactical training and ammo dumps, then go with Daniel Defense. The key to an AR's durability is the barrel, Daniel Defense barrels are MIL-B-11595E grade, DelTon isn't. However I own a variety of AR grade rifles from Noveske to DelTon and I can tell you I like DelTon, never had an issue, they zero just fine, are accurate, and are reliable, as least for me. My Middy DelTon can produce 1.5 MOA groups at 100 yards. I would say that is more than acceptable. Keep in mind, things like chrome lined chambers, chrome lined barrels, and M-4 feed ramps were originally made for overseas service rifles that are selective fire (automatic) and made to be reliable in harsh conditions in the field. Since your not in a dusty and gritty fire base in Afghanistan and expecting to hold off a 3 day attempt to be over ran by Taliban fighters, a DelTon here in the states will do okay. Its all up to you.

[ZX-10R]

Let the rifle do the talking:



Del-Ton upper, 16 inch heavy barrel. Reloads with 25.5 grains of BLC(2), Winchester Bulk 55 gr BTFMJ on a Dillon 550B Nothing special about any of this yet, strangely, it makes groups like this. All. Day. Long.

So what was that question again?

Were you aiming at bulls? Because if you were, you were way off. Great group but way low.

[smle-man]

Still shooting my hybrid A2 Delton-Stag with chrome lined barrel with no problems. Worked fine right out of the box and is still working fine. I'll let you know if it fails but don't wait up for it to happen because it doesn't seem like it will.

[EvolutionGSR]

Let the rifle do the talking:



Del-Ton upper, 16 inch heavy barrel. Reloads with 25.5 grains of BLC(2), Winchester Bulk 55 gr BTFMJ on a Dillon 550B Nothing special about any of this yet, strangely, it makes groups like this. All. Day. Long.

So what was that question again?

I guess my first question would be....at what distance?

[coyotebait]

I guess my first question would be....at what distance?

...and irons or optics?

[Lead Waster]

1000 rounds of .223 is about $300 if you can get it for $6/20. If you don't shoot this month and the next, you'll have $600 to put into the better quality upper.

[Lead Waster]

Hey Tacticalcity, that coffee table (with the magazines under it) sure make for a confusing picture!

[Norsemen308]

Here's what I ended up realizing after I did my research. This is all just a subjective opinion that may be shared by others

LaRue, DD, Noveske, LMT = Benz,BMW,Porsche,Cadillac <over priced oil leaking pigs that are expensive to fix

CMMG, BCM,Stag, Rockriver Arms, Spikes, = Chevy, Ford,Dodge < have horrible cooling problems, trannies go out at 100,000 miles, costly repair costs over life of the vehicle

del-ton, DPMS, Chiappas = KIA, Hyundai(the early years)... etc. <cheap vehicle that runs well up to about 150,000

sorry... must be the service writer in me...

find it hysterical you place the DPMS's at the bottom of the list.. anyways... Get the Daniels Defense if your thinking of either one and you can afford it, I tell friends this, by the gun you can afford, if you Buy a Daniels Defense you will not be doing anything to that gun, it will run flawlessly... same with a Delton... the difference is on a delton your going to more inclined to make the gun yours changing barrels, or fore arms or stocks, down the way, or save up to buy a piston gas system on another ar. just look at this real quick I just picked up a dpms oracle, its a good base ar, out the door with dross 780. I then spent another 220 bucks on a picanny rail carbine fore-arm, yankee hill flip up sights and i still plan on adding a ctr stock. Now account if I would have bought a Daniels defense I wouldnt have had to add those on as must come equipped with sights and picanny rails and ctr stocks. but my gun didnt run 1400+ either.... I own a Daniels Defense, I love the gun, runs flawlessly, you can feel subtle differences between my dpms, dd and cmmg. Many guys will jump on and tell you how the piston system is far superior, which it is, but ill tell you i have not had a short stroke, a Failure to fire/load with any of my regular gas AR's. If you where to tell me your going to buy just one AR for your gun safe, go Daniels and never look back... if you want to buy something to customize and make your own get one of the lower price ones and have a blast!!!

[spoonman03]

sorry... must be the service writer in me...

find it hysterical you place the DPMS's at the bottom of the list.. anyways... Get the Daniels Defense if your thinking of either one and you can afford it, I tell friends this, by the gun you can afford, if you Buy a Daniels Defense you will not be doing anything to that gun, it will run flawlessly... same with a Delton... the difference is on a delton your going to more inclined to make the gun yours changing barrels, or fore arms or stocks, down the way, or save up to buy a piston gas system on another ar. just look at this real quick I just picked up a dpms oracle, its a good base ar, out the door with dross 780. I then spent another 220 bucks on a picanny rail carbine fore-arm, yankee hill flip up sights and i still plan on adding a ctr stock. Now account if I would have bought a Daniels defense I wouldnt have had to add those on as must come equipped with sights and picanny rails and ctr stocks. but my gun didnt run 1400+ either.... I own a Daniels Defense, I love the gun, runs flawlessly, you can feel subtle differences between my dpms, dd and cmmg. Many guys will jump on and tell you how the piston system is far superior, which it is, but ill tell you i have not had a short stroke, a Failure to fire/load with any of my regular gas AR's. If you where to tell me your going to buy just one AR for your gun safe, go Daniels and never look back... if you want to buy something to customize and make your own get one of the lower price ones and have a blast!!!

The delton MOE rifles are great, already full of magpul furntiture, luv mine. The handguard accepts the magpul rail inserts so u can mount anything anywhere.