Bullet button legality

[Stone]

The theory behind the bullet button is that, because it requires a tool to remove the magazine, the magazine will be considered fixed under the law.

However, I do not see anywhere that the law defines the word "fixed" and one might argue that something that is designed to be removable with a tool is not actually fixed.

For example, a manufacturer would not describe the windage and elevation adjustment screws on the scope as being "fixed" yet I require a tool to adjust them.

Have their been any attempts to prosecute people using the bullet button, or any court cases involving someone using a bullet button, that could be referred to for additional peace of mind?

[MUKAK]

i wanna know also

[jchen76@gmail.com]

Check the 2nd amendment subforum or link to the following case

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=429902

[soopafly]

the requirement is not for the magazine to be "fixed"

rather, the requirement is for the magazine to not be detachable

a magazine can be removable without meeting the legal definition of "detachable magazine"

[CSACANNONEER]

Reread the California AW laws again. It is there.

[97F1504RAD]

I would suggest that you use the search function this topic has been beat to death.

I would also suggest going and reading all the stickies and then if you are not comfortable purchasing or building a rifle that fits with the confines of the law then do not.

The answer to all your question are on this site.

[Librarian]

the requirement is not for the magazine to be "fixed"

rather, the requirement is for the magazine to not be detachable

a magazine can be removable without meeting the legal definition of "detachable magazine"

^^^ This. ^^^

Detachable has a definition. Using a tool, including a bullet, avoids that definition. Magazine lock modifies the weapon so it CANNOT accept a detachable magazine, because a tool is needed to remove the magazine from the magazine well.

[dieselpower]

You are looking at it the wrong way.

All you care about is the magazine is NOT defined as a detachable one...by requiring a tool in order to get it out of the firearm.

This does affix the magazine in the firearm, therefore have only 10rds as a capacity.

You are correct, there is no definition of fixed magazine in CA law.

[762.DEFENSE]

Reread the California AW laws again. It is there.

+1

[Cokebottle]

I would suggest that you use the search function this topic has been beat to death.

And we now have case law supporting the bullet button.

[7.62 Charlie]

A detachable magazine can be removed without the use of a tool.
A Bullet Button requires a tool to remove the magazine thus its a non detachable magazine.

[RLTW]

Alright not to sound like a D#*^ but why is it that everytime a question like this or something that is part of... New Members go here first .... They never do...

If after searching on this site and you can't find it... There is another great thing called Bing, Google.

Spend the time to inform yourself, look at the actually Penal Code...(yeap I said Penal...lol) The Reason being... None of us are going to be standing next to you when some informed or uninformed LEO is cuffing or taking your hard earned rifles or pistols. And your Saying "but this guy on Calguns said it was good" That crap doesn't fly... You own it.. Its your responsibility to know the law... NO EXCUSE..

Oh has the world ended yet?

[NorCalDustin]

Alright not to sound like a D#*^ but why is it that everytime a question like this or something that is part of... New Members go here first .... They never do...

If after searching on this site and you can't find it... There is another great thing called Bing, Google.

Spend the time to inform yourself, look at the actually Penal Code...(yeap I said Penal...lol) The Reason being... None of us are going to be standing next to you when some informed or uninformed LEO is cuffing or taking your hard earned rifles or pistols. And your Saying "but this guy on Calguns said it was good" That crap doesn't fly... You own it.. Its your responsibility to know the law... NO EXCUSE..

Oh has the world ended yet?

Well said.

[7.62 Charlie]

Well said.

Indeed

[bwiese]

And we now have case law supporting the bullet button.

Um, let's rephrase that.

The CA Attorney General/DOJ has stated in a Federal Court (responsive to CGF's 42 USC 1983 challenge) that BulletButton-style maglocked ARs are not illegal AWs.