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  • donking
    Senior Member
    • May 2010
    • 630

    Which Muzzle Device for AR Pistol

    I've seen lots of threads about how good the Battlecomp is, but what about for an AR Pistol?

    Is the flaming pig or something else a better alternative for a 10" AR?
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    PsychGuy274
    Veteran Member
    • May 2010
    • 4289

    Better for what?
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    • #3
      Grumpyoldretiredcop
      Calguns Addict
      • Sep 2008
      • 6437

      I'm running a standard A2 flashhider on mine with no problems.
      I'm retired. That's right, retired. I don't want to hear about the cop who stopped you today or how you didn't think you should get a ticket. That just makes me grumpy!

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      • #4
        djleisure
        Veteran Member
        • Aug 2008
        • 4734

        Generally 10" AR pistols have less problems cycling than 7.5" AR pistols. This isn't a stead-fast rule, but essentially there is more burn time for the powder in a 10" and thus, more gasses available to cycle the bolt. The KX3 and Troy Claymore muzzle devices are there to basically help create more gas pressure in the 7.5" (or any AR pistol) to reliably cycle the bolt. As always YMMV.
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        • #5
          IDPA4U
          Member
          • Jan 2008
          • 334

          I tried the Levang and the Claymore on my 7.5" Ar Pistol. In the end they both make the weapon very pleasant to shoot, but I found the Claymore's recoil was softer.

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          • #6
            1sicklx
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2007
            • 760

            tag

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            • #7
              FeuerFrei
              Calguns Addict
              • Aug 2008
              • 7455

              Use whichever one that makes the biggest flash when shooting at dusk!
              AR pistols are fun and a real crowd pleaser.
              A2 birdcage works for mine.

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              • #8
                Brambo
                Junior Member
                • Jul 2010
                • 26

                I have tried a few. The primary weapons CQB has my vote. It doesn't white out my NVG and doesnt give your buddies a concusion. They are proud of it, it ain't cheap.

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                • #9
                  donking
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2010
                  • 630

                  Originally posted by Brambo
                  I have tried a few. The primary weapons CQB has my vote. It doesn't white out my NVG and doesnt give your buddies a concusion. They are proud of it, it ain't cheap.

                  http://primaryweapons.com/store/pc/v...0&idcategory=6
                  What length barrel is on your AR pistol?

                  Which comps did you try?

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                  • #10
                    donking
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2010
                    • 630

                    Originally posted by djleisure
                    Generally 10" AR pistols have less problems cycling than 7.5" AR pistols. This isn't a stead-fast rule, but essentially there is more burn time for the powder in a 10" and thus, more gasses available to cycle the bolt. The KX3 and Troy Claymore muzzle devices are there to basically help create more gas pressure in the 7.5" (or any AR pistol) to reliably cycle the bolt. As always YMMV.
                    Does this mean the 10" are well behaved enough to run a Battlecomp or PWS FSC?

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                    • #11
                      djleisure
                      Veteran Member
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 4734

                      Originally posted by donking
                      Does this mean the 10" are well behaved enough to run a Battlecomp or PWS FSC?
                      Well, like I said, that is just kind of "generally speaking" - it depends on who built it, if they tuned the gas port at all and a handful of other factors. The point is, those types of muzzle devices (KX3, et al) will help any AR pistol cycle more reliably. You will probably be just fine with a Battlecomp, standar A2 flash hider or any other muzzle device though...
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                      • #12
                        donking
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2010
                        • 630

                        Originally posted by PsychGuy274
                        Better for what?
                        Reducing the recoil compared to the standard A2 birdcage.

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                        • #13
                          novalondon
                          Member
                          • Jan 2010
                          • 217

                          I built a 7 inch .223 pistol and started with a standard birdcage flash hider. Loud, what!, Loud, say what!? The birdcage style muzzles allows the sound field to almost peal off your ears even under a good tight fitting set of noise canceling ears . I added a set of foam earplugs under the my ears I usually wore to keep the noise down. Anyone standing next to me got a concussion from being near the pistol and it's peach basket ball of flame it spued on each round.
                          I changed out the standard AR muzzle brake to a Noveske KX-3 flaming Pig and it made a HUGE differance in sound to the shooter and to anyone next to the pistol when being fired. Still has the flame throwing ability but the sound is pushed forward instead of all over. The KX-3 was desgigned for CQB style rifles so shooters inside buildings and hallways wouldn't deafen the team mates nearby or next to the operator.
                          As for making the pistol or shortbarrels work better in the gas system,I cannot say, my pistol has never had a problem with any ammo I have ever put thru it.
                          It has a Rock River national match trigger group and it will bump fire with the best of them. A full Beta C-Mag is emptied in under 10 seconds if I want to. The KX-3 made no difference in that ability either. I installed it to cut down on the side and rearward noise from the bang only. Currently it is a sfae queen pending a Form to ATF to make it a SBR
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                          • #14
                            ghost
                            Veteran Member
                            • Oct 2006
                            • 4626

                            i'm currently running a pws fsc on my 11.5 barreled ar pistol and it works great.pending my form 4 getting approved i'll taking it off and selling it,then replacing it with a suppressor.

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                            • #15
                              donking
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2010
                              • 630

                              Originally posted by novalondon
                              I built a 7 inch .223 pistol and started with a standard birdcage flash hider. Loud, what!, Loud, say what!? The birdcage style muzzles allows the sound field to almost peal off your ears even under a good tight fitting set of noise canceling ears . I added a set of foam earplugs under the my ears I usually wore to keep the noise down. Anyone standing next to me got a concussion from being near the pistol and it's peach basket ball of flame it spued on each round.
                              I changed out the standard AR muzzle brake to a Noveske KX-3 flaming Pig and it made a HUGE differance in sound to the shooter and to anyone next to the pistol when being fired. Still has the flame throwing ability but the sound is pushed forward instead of all over. The KX-3 was desgigned for CQB style rifles so shooters inside buildings and hallways wouldn't deafen the team mates nearby or next to the operator.
                              As for making the pistol or shortbarrels work better in the gas system,I cannot say, my pistol has never had a problem with any ammo I have ever put thru it.
                              It has a Rock River national match trigger group and it will bump fire with the best of them. A full Beta C-Mag is emptied in under 10 seconds if I want to. The KX-3 made no difference in that ability either. I installed it to cut down on the side and rearward noise from the bang only. Currently it is a sfae queen pending a Form to ATF to make it a SBR
                              The KX-3 is much heavier/longer than the A2 and BC. Do you notice the weight/length difference?

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