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  • Jack M.
    Junior Member
    • Jan 2010
    • 13

    Stag A2 birdcage, brake or muzzle device?

    I ordered a Stag upper that comes with a A2 muzzle device. I am building a featureless rifle and ordered the upper from Lan World Inc. Stag will not sell to Ca. they tell people to go through Lan. Both Stag and Lan insist that their A2 birdcage is Ca. compliant. I am skeptical as I thought birdcages were flash hider perhaps hider muzzle brake combos. Anyone have knowledge of this. I'm not partial to brakes that annoy people to the left and right , but I for sure don't want any grief from the man.
  • #2
    UserM4
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2010
    • 1687

    It isn't compliant if you're going featureless. Get a muzzle brake or a thread protector.
    While we're here arguing about the latest high tech running shoes, there's some Kenyan out there running barefoot. Guess who's gonna win the marathon?

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    • #3
      bender152
      Veteran Member
      • Nov 2006
      • 4237

      On a featureless rifle, a flash hider is not permissible. You can either use a muzzle brake or no muzzle device at all.

      If you have a mag-locked rifle, a flash hider is perfectly fine.

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      • #4
        stix213
        AKA: Joe Censored
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Apr 2009
        • 18998

        Most people in California go with a bullet button fixed mag rifle setup, which would be perfectly legal to have the A2 bird cage on. Review the "CA AW ID flowchart" under "AW & OLL Guides" at the top of this page for specific details. You should have the entire thing memorized before making any attempt at building an AR type rifle anyways. Its way too easy to commit a felony if you do not have that memorized.
        Last edited by stix213; 01-21-2011, 3:45 PM.

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        • #5
          chesterthehero
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2010
          • 2070

          the A2 flash hider that comes with stag uppers is only legal (in CA) with a maglock (or a registered AW)..
          stag has a comp for pretty cheap (i got mine for $12 from opperationparts.com but i cant find them ATM) that is fully legal.. be warned its LOUD AS HELL and sends the blast sideways so people next to you are going to hate you.. tenpercentfirearms.com has it for $25.. it works great though.. there are 3 small holes on the top to help with muzzle rise (its minimal but its there).. i canted mine to the left a bit get almost zero muzzle movement while firing which makes for quick follow up shots

          YHM makes a cheap (under $30) one that ive been looking at..
          Boy the way Glen Miller played, songs that made the hit parade, guys like us we had it made, those were the days, and you know where you were then, girls were girls and men were men, mister we could use a man like Herbert Hoover again, didn't need no welfare states everybody pulled his weight, gee our old Lasalle ran great, those were the days!

          who wants a fishtank?

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          • #6
            morfeeis
            Calguns Addict
            • Apr 2010
            • 7605

            Just had the same problem, from what I'm told you can jut rip the a2 off and replace it with a legal option for your build.
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            • #7
              morfeeis
              Calguns Addict
              • Apr 2010
              • 7605

              Originally posted by chesterthehero
              the A2 flash hider that comes with stag uppers is only legal (in CA) with a maglock (or a registered AW)..
              stag has a comp for pretty cheap (i got mine for $12 from opperationparts.com but i cant find them ATM) that is fully legal.. be warned its LOUD AS HELL and sends the blast sideways so people next to you are going to hate you.. tenpercentfirearms.com has it for $25.. it works great though.. there are 3 small holes on the top to help with muzzle rise (its minimal but its there).. i canted mine to the left a bit get almost zero muzzle movement while firing which makes for quick follow up shots

              YHM makes a cheap (under $30) one that ive been looking at..
              When I was in AZ I shot my brothers AR and the comp on his and when he fired it next to me I could feel the pulse go through my body.....
              ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
              Originally posted by Ayn Rand
              You seek escape from pain. We seek the achievement of happiness. You exist for the sake of avoiding punishment. We exist for the sake of earning rewards. Threats will not make us function; fear is not our incentive. It is not death we wish to avoid, but life that we wish to live.

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              • #8
                chesterthehero
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2010
                • 2070

                Originally posted by morfeeis
                When I was in AZ I shot my brothers AR and the comp on his and when he fired it next to me I could feel the pulse go through my body.....
                if i shoot with my mouth open the blast makes my teeth hurt... i need to go to the dentist..
                Boy the way Glen Miller played, songs that made the hit parade, guys like us we had it made, those were the days, and you know where you were then, girls were girls and men were men, mister we could use a man like Herbert Hoover again, didn't need no welfare states everybody pulled his weight, gee our old Lasalle ran great, those were the days!

                who wants a fishtank?

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