Why Dimpled?

[TNP'R]

I have both types and There's really no difference. We are not talking about a fine rifle created by craftsmen here. With the loose tolerances in receivers and mags (Which is one of the reasons they are so reliable.) they are all going to wobble to some extant.

yep if you make them wobble they will wobble but with the older wasr-10s they would wobble just by walking with them or shaking it. i believe they fixed it by welding spacers inside the mag well or supplied a different mag.

no because it's not dimpled or non dimpled that has more mag wobble.

it's the individual rifle and also the magazine. i can tell you the dimension of the mag well will have more to do with mag wobble than having dimples.

all of this does not really matter because some mag wobble is a good thing. the ak is built with slop as it should be.

B.S is it the individual AK get your hands on a older wasr-10 and see how bad the wobble is and im certain that if you were to hold another one made in the same time frame it would have that same amount of wobble.

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yep if you make them wobble they will wobble but with the older wasr-10s they would wobble just by walking with them or shaking it. i believe they fixed it by welding spacers inside the mag well or supplied a different mag.



B.S is it the individual AK get your hands on a older wasr-10 and see how bad the wobble is and im certain that if you were to hold another one made in the same time frame it would have that same amount of wobble.

so you mean to tell me a different mag made for less wobble? where did i hear that before...?

i've had a few of those older wasr rifles that were on the large side of spec. guess what they still ran perfect.
one of my favorite feg sa85m rifles has just as much mag wobble and it has dimples. those rifles are well known to be at or near the top of stamped ak quality.

it's not about dimple or non dimple. it's the individual rifles dimensions. you don't like the truth than believe what you want.

i'd like to hear your opinion on ar15 upper to lower fit.

[TNP'R]

so you mean to tell me a different mag made for less wobble? where did i hear that before...?

i've had a few of those older wasr rifles that were on the large side of spec. guess what they still ran perfect.
one of my favorite feg sa85m rifles has just as much mag wobble and it has dimples. those rifles are well known to be at or near the top of stamped ak quality.

it's not about dimple or non dimple. it's the individual rifles dimensions. you don't like the truth than believe what you want.

i'd like to hear your opinion on ar15 upper to lower fit.

where did i say that wobble effected performance? i never said that at all.if every ak's dimensions were different then there would be no aftermarket for ak-47's because no two rifles would be the same...

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B.S is it the individual AK get your hands on a older wasr-10 and see how bad the wobble is and im certain that if you were to hold another one made in the same time frame it would have that same amount of wobble.

by the way the century monkeys do a lot of great things with a dremel tool.

the fact that those wasr still run after those guys get done with them shows how much abuse an ak can take.

look into all the FAL and HK91 clones those guys have killed.

[TNP'R]

by the way the century monkeys do a lot of great things with a dremel tool.

the fact that those wasr still run after those guys get done with them shows how much abuse an ak can take.

look into all the FAL and HK91 clones those guys have killed.

i didnt say they didnt work, just said the older ones wobbled more.

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where did i say that wobble effected performance? i never said that at all.if every ak's dimensions were different then there would be no aftermarket for ak-47's because no two rifles would be the same...

oh no the gas tube wobbles on this ak but not that one. none of the parts can interchange. they are not the same...

look at the difference in mag well dimensions of ar15 rifles. mags drop free from some but not others. that FACT shows there can't be an aftermarket for the ar15.

you are welcome to come down to OC and see the mag wobbles more in my dimpled saiga and feg sa85m than it does in my non dimpled saiga.

[TNP'R]

oh no the gas tube wobbles on this ak but not that one. none of the parts can interchange. they are not the same...

look at the difference in mag well dimensions of ar15 rifles. mags drop free from some but not others. that FACT shows there can't be an aftermarket for the ar15.

you are welcome to come down to OC and see the mag wobbles more in my dimpled saiga and feg sa85m than it does in my non dimpled saiga.

a quality ak-47 isn't going to have mag wobble to the point where you can walk around with it and the mag wobbles. if you can make your saiga wobble like a older wasr-10 then you have problems or you're full of it. look at all the quality ak's out there they all have dimples and they don't have that issue like the older wasr's did.the polish tantels have dimples the yugo's have them the arsenals have them the saiga's have them and yes i know the arsenal is a saiga. put two and two together..

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a quality ak-47 isn't going to have mag wobble to the point where you can walk around with it and the mag wobbles. if you can make your saiga wobble like a older wasr-10 then you have problems or you're full of it. look at all the quality ak's out there they all have dimples and they don't have that issue like the older wasr's did.the polish tantels have dimples the yugo's have them the arsenals have them the saiga's have them and yes i know the arsenal is a saiga. put two and two together..

so because some of the older wasr rifles have a lot of mag wobble (due to century monkeys) all of the non dimpled rifles have more mag wobble than a dimpled one?

many saigas don't have dimples and don't have a lot of wobble. are they not quality?

even in your friends video he pretty much said later non dimpled wasr rifles had the mag wobble "problem" fixed. "they did mill out this well a little bit smaller". that whole video showed there was no problem or extra mag wobble in that non dimpled wasr.

the reason wasr and saiga rifles now have dimples is because of american consumers crying about dimples not because dimples cure mag wobble.
ETA maybe that last part is a bit too far. it could be other reasons. new tooling,streamlining manufacture etc. but it sure was not because dimples cure mag wobble.

[TNP'R]

so because some of the older wasr rifles have a lot of mag wobble (due to century monkeys) all of the non dimpled rifles have more mag wobble than a dimpled one?

many saigas don't have dimples and don't have a lot of wobble. are they not quality?

even in your friends video he pretty much said later non dimpled wasr rifles had the mag wobble "problem" fixed. "they did mill out this well a little bit smaller". that whole video showed there was no problem or extra mag wobble in that non dimpled wasr.

the reason wasr and saiga rifles now have dimples is because of american consumers crying about dimples not because dimples cure mag wobble.

first of all that wasn't one of the older wasr's
and second of all there wasn't a major out cry for dimples so them putting them on the saiga because of that isn't that believable.

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first of all that wasn't one of the older wasr's
and second of all there wasn't a major out cry for dimples so them putting them on the saiga because of that isn't that believable.

so you mean to tell me there is no abnormal mag wobble in that non dimpled wasr?

and there is also no abnormal mag wobble in the non dimpled saigas?

you have not been around ak rifles long if you say there was not an out cry for dimples. i edited my post as you were quoting about that being the only reason but ak fanatics have always had a hard on for a "correct" reciever. they even have the selector markings milled in/engraved.

so all in all toss out the wasr as they are single stacks cut out to double stacks by monkeys.

lets focus on non dimpled saigas. are you going to say they have abnormal mag wobble vs a dimpled rifle?

i can tell you from the ones i have seen there is no more or less mag wobble between dimpled and non dimpled saigas.

i'm signing out for the night. it's been fun

[metalliman545]

my non dimpled WASR has spacers welded into the magwell. i have two standard cap mags with them both of them fit very differently, one extremely tight(into the opening) and one really easily. despite the differences in dimensions the looser fitting one still does not wobble. the dimples are there for a reason other then cosometics, thats why wasrs had the spacers welded inside them because the wobble fromnot having dimples was causing a problem. and we were complaining and the companies heard.

[metalliman545]

****ty pic that was taken with my cell but that is a spacer tht was installed to prevent magazine wobble in my non dimpled wasr 10

[SanPedroShooter]

I want dimples because my cheap wasr dosent have them. Plain and simple. With a loaded thirty rounder, my mags dont rattle at all, but as mentioned above, I have a hard on for as authentic as i can get, that means dimples. Wether they serve any purpose or not.
I would imagine they do, because century puts in spacers inside the wasr mag wells to take their place.
I have upgraded my wasr, mainly cosmetically, it came out very nice in my opinion, but no dimples...

[stphnman20]

Having dimple on an AK variant, makes it more authentic IMO.