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  • #16
    SigEquinox
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Feb 2010
    • 194

    Originally posted by gmcal
    Read the link I posted and try some of those to see what works in your gun.
    Will do, thanks.

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    • #17
      Dhena81
      Veteran Member
      • May 2010
      • 4587

      I remember hearing from somewhere that getting shot with a .308 at 800 meters is like getting shot with a 357 magnum at point plank range. I really don't think its going to matter much what kind of ammo you use for that close of a range say within 3-7 yards. Either way with how fast and with that kind of energy the bullet is going to drop whatever it hits fast surplus will do fine.

      What kind of firearm are we talking about anyways.

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      • #18
        SigEquinox
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        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Feb 2010
        • 194

        Originally posted by Dhena81
        What kind of firearm are we talking about anyways.
        Probably a SCAR 17s if I can find one.

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        • #19
          captbilly
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2010
          • 836

          If you are considering .308 then long range accuracy matters.

          I am a big fan of .308 so I am not the one to talk you out of using it. .308 is nearly as widely available as .223, it is much more powerful, it has much better range (although with the right bullet a .223 can go quite far, though with very limited energy when it gets there). .308 makes sense for hard (er) targets than is appropriate for .223 or longer ranges, so I would think that accuracy would matter. Since this is a Zombie gun you still want it to be a semi auto (zombies always come in herds), and with an AR style .308 you give up very little in practical accuracy for the semi auto capability. I went with an LR-308 with a 24" heavy barrel, but it is very heavy (but light on dollars). You will also want a good tactical/target scope, and for the Zombies that sneak in close maybe a EOTech on top of the scope.

          I personally think that the .308 is possibly the best all around caliber. It is much more powerful than any of the lighter AR-15 or AK calibers. It is cheap and plentiful in a huge variety of weights, styles, loads. It has enough range for any but the absolutely longest range shots, shots that very few people could make even if they did have a .338 Lapua. It has very reasonable recoil so follow up shots are quick, although obviously the .223 is much lighter still.

          Of course, if you aren't going to practice 500 yard plus shots then the long range capability is meaningless, and .308 becomes less of an obvious choice. Now if you are worried about zombies hiding behind cinder block walls then perhaps that could be a reason for .308 as well, but zombies are stupid (they are after only one thing... your brains) so they don't usually hide behind stuff.
          Last edited by captbilly; 11-12-2010, 12:20 PM. Reason: spelling, duh!?

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          • #20
            sevensix2x51
            Veteran Member
            • Sep 2009
            • 3835

            An eotech on top of your scope?? Jeez louise! I could see a dr optic on a 45degree mount, maybe....

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            • #21
              gmcal
              Senior Member
              • May 2007
              • 1425

              Is the SCAR capable of taking advantage of the long capability and accuracy of the .308? Maybe the LMT .308? Or a GAP build? Armalite or Dpms?

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              • #22
                smakbiam
                Junior Member
                • Oct 2010
                • 49

                m1a in .308 with wood stock and bayo for meleeing purposes would be my choice. I'm almost positive Mr. Garand had zombie killing in mind when he designed it.

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                • #23
                  sevensix2x51
                  Veteran Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 3835

                  M1a! My 308 garand is also very capable at any range I could imagine taking down a target... ^^^bah, beat me to it.

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                  • #24
                    gmcal
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 1425

                    Originally posted by sevensix2x51
                    An eotech on top of your scope?? Jeez louise! I could see a dr optic on a 45degree mount, maybe....
                    A .308 with a scope will be heavy. But if he really wants 2 scopes maybe an aimpoint in a 1 o'clock or 11 o'clock mount would work. But yeah, that's going to be a pig.

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                    • #25
                      BHPFan
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 2264

                      Originally posted by gmcal
                      Is the SCAR capable of taking advantage of the long capability and accuracy of the .308? Maybe the LMT .308? Or a GAP build? Armalite or Dpms?
                      SCAR17 H, Yes, why not?

                      LMT .308, no problem, especially with the MWS.
                      They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
                      ~ Benjamin Franklin

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                      • #26
                        BHPFan
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 2264

                        Originally posted by SigEquinox
                        I've been researching the best rounds for HD/SHTF. This is what I've chosen:

                        9mm : Winchester RA9T
                        .40 : Winchester RA40T
                        5.56 : Hornady 75g TAP
                        6.8 : SSA 115g OTM Tactical Load

                        I know there are other good choices, but this is what I've decided on.

                        But I have no idea on .308. What do you guys suggest?

                        thanks.
                        I think any .308 has enough power for SHTF.

                        Also, why would you want a .308 for HD?
                        They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
                        ~ Benjamin Franklin

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                        • #27
                          msand951
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2010
                          • 735

                          When I cast my bullets for reloading i cast them out of silver for werewolves , quench them in holy water and lube them with my garlic home recipe for those bloodsuckers.
                          Lube recipe- perafin wax, beeswax, crayons , 3 cloves of garlic, and teaspoon of stp oil treatment.

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                          • #28
                            gmcal
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2007
                            • 1425

                            Originally posted by BHPFan
                            SCAR17 H, Yes, why not?

                            LMT .308, no problem, especially with the MWS.
                            Sorry, he mentioned the 17s I just referred to it as a SCAR. IIRC, they are a GP gun and combined with the 16.25" barrel idk if that set up would be able to take advantage of the .308's long range accuracy. The others I mentioned are DI, again IIRC. It's a question and not a statement because idk. Also if he already has AR's it's 1 less system to learn. Although I'd go with a bolt gun just because they are easier to learn to shoot accurately.

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                            • #29
                              VaderSpade
                              Vendor/Retailer
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 4274

                              Do bears like dead Zombies???

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                              • #30
                                hefedehefe
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2010
                                • 2141

                                AK platform lol
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