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  • pepsi2451
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2006
    • 1628

    Originally posted by stormy_clothing
    To the op - look bs guy there is no way you owned a bunch of high caps when you were 10 - it makes for a cute post but I'll just say liar makes it easier than saying maybe yeah um ok it's possible.

    There is no reason he couldn't have owned them

    There is no reason for you to have since you can't own a rifle at that age and barring proof of purchase your story is again BS and your just filling up another worthless thread on a mature gun oriented site.

    Since when do you have to be a certain age to own a rifle? Even if that were true, that doesn't mean he didn't buy a high cap for use with his fathers rifle.

    Anyone with there head screwed on straight is going to say the same thing in real life whether it's a gun store owner, police officer or the prosecuting DA and finally the judge. That's the end result when you break the law and get caught not what you say here.

    Luckily they have to provide proof and if the OP is telling the truth they won't be able to do that.

    Having said all of that it's up to you to proceed knowing what could happen - any gun show will have single mag parts for sale and many gun shops for actually rebuilding a mag. For buying enough parts to essentially replace it all together you either better be law enforcement in CA or buy them online.

    Why would you need to buy them online? Its legal to replace every part on the magazine. Lots of people buy full rebuild kits to make 10 rounders out of or for use out of state.

    I have a few and mine came from a glock that was purchased before the ban, a couple people I knew that had guns given to them by there folks or loaned but werent old enough to register them actually bought the magazines as they weren't restricted just before the ban and kept the receipt.

    So your friends can buy them before the ban but everyone else is lying?
    For 2 years and 2000 posts there sure is a lot of FUD here. The high cap mag topic only comes up every other day.

    Age really doesn't mean anything as long as they were alive before the date. If they somehow passed a law restricting us to 5 rounds and I had a 1 month old baby, I would buy my kid as many high caps as I could afford before the ban took effect.
    Last edited by pepsi2451; 11-06-2010, 11:24 AM.

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    • CSACANNONEER
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Dec 2006
      • 44092

      Originally posted by luckystrike
      theres no way someone had hi caps under the age? alright.

      wait your friends had them before they were of age? you just said there was "no way"......
      Obviously strormy_clothing doesn't realize that there is not now nor, has there ever been an age restriction on owning magazines. He is trying to make laws up to help justify his illogical arguements.

      Originally posted by stormy_clothing
      To the op - look bs guy there is no way you owned a bunch of high caps when you were 10 - it makes for a cute post but I'll just say liar makes it easier than saying maybe yeah um ok it's possible.

      There is no reason for you to have since you can't own a rifle at that age and barring proof of purchase your story is again BS and your just filling up another worthless thread on a mature gun oriented site.

      Anyone with there head screwed on straight is going to say the same thing in real life whether it's a gun store owner, police officer or the prosecuting DA and finally the judge. That's the end result when you break the law and get caught not what you say here.

      Having said all of that it's up to you to proceed knowing what could happen - any gun show will have single mag parts for sale and many gun shops for actually rebuilding a mag. For buying enough parts to essentially replace it all together you either better be law enforcement in CA or buy them online.

      I have a few and mine came from a glock that was purchased before the ban, a couple people I knew that had guns given to them by there folks or loaned but werent old enough to register them actually bought the magazines as they weren't restricted just before the ban and kept the receipt.
      This is one of the most idiotic posts I've ever seen on this forum. But, hell, we all know that every "gun store owner, police officer or the prosecuting DA and finally the judge" knows every gun related law, right? Sorry, I've worked in LE, worked at a gunstore and even have a couple attorneys (one used to be a DA) and a LA Superior Court Judge) who routinely come to me with questions related to firearms in Ca. I can tell you, for a fact, that most of the professionals in the fields you suggested do not know sqaut about California and/or Federal laws. Many of them just believe what they see on TV and in movies.

      Again, I know many people, under the agae of 18 on 1-1-2000, who legally owned +10 round mags then. I owned some when I was under 18 too. But, for me, it's not an issue since, I was well over 18 in 2000. As far as keeping reciepts goes, there is ZERO reason to have to prove your innocents. A prosecuter would have to prove that you did not own them prior to 1-1-2000.

      BTW, did you know that it is perfectly legal for someone under 18 to OWN a long gun? Just pointing out another problem with your arguement and your obvious lack of real knowledge when it comes to firearms laws.
      Last edited by CSACANNONEER; 11-06-2010, 11:38 AM.
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      • mif_slim
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Apr 2008
        • 10089

        I was born in 200o, I own 60 hi-cap mags, but I was concieved in the womb in dec 1999. I was alive!!!
        Originally posted by Gottmituns
        It's not protecting the rights of the 1%, it's IMPOSING new laws because of the 1%.

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        • Cokebottle
          Señor Member
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Oct 2009
          • 32373

          Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
          A prosecuter would have to prove that you did not own them prior to 1-1-2000 11/5/2007.
          Fixed it for you
          - Rich

          Originally posted by dantodd
          A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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          • luckystrike
            Veteran Member
            • Feb 2009
            • 4176

            Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
            Obviously strormy_clothing doesn't realize that there is not now nor, has there ever been an age restriction on owning magazines. He is trying to make laws up to help justify his illogical arguements.



            This is one of the most idiotic posts I've ever seen on this forum. But, hell, we all know that every "gun store owner, police officer or the prosecuting DA and finally the judge" knows every gun related law, right? Sorry, I've worked in LE, worked at a gunstore and even have a couple attorneys (one used to be a DA) and a LA Superior Court Judge) who routinely come to me with questions related to firearms in Ca. I can tell you, for a fact, that most of the professionals in the fields you suggested do not know sqaut about California and/or Federal laws. Many of them just believe what they see on TV and in movies.

            Again, I know many people, under the agae of 18 on 1-1-2000, who legally owned +10 round mags then. I owned some when I was under 18 too. But, for me, it's not an issue since, I was well over 18 in 2000. As far as keeping reciepts goes, there is ZERO reason to have to prove your innocents. A prosecuter would have to prove that you did not own them prior to 1-1-2000.

            BTW, did you know that it is perfectly legal for someone under 18 to OWN a long gun? Just pointing out another problem with your arguement and your obvious lack of real knowledge when it comes to firearms laws.
            theres some people you could not convince there was a fire even if their hair was on fire.

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            • Flogger23m
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2008
              • 1215

              Originally posted by iBkickinit

              Given to you by another person while inside the state(read: you didn't import them)? All good, its only illegal to give or sell, not to buy or receive. Your aunt/uncle/nephew/stranger could have given them to you and there is no burden on you to prove where they came from. YOU didn.t break a law. I have noticed many tend to come from a recently deceased relative...

              This happened to me. I was supposed to get a 10/30 AK mag, but I ended up getting a 30 round mag. I disassembled it and fixed it as a 10/30.

              I have since sold the mag and the rifle.

              So legally can I now buy one 30 round 7.62x39 AK rebuild kit and rebuild it into 10+ round AK magazine?

              Or am I out of luck since I fixed it to a 10 round mag and sold it?

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              • luckystrike
                Veteran Member
                • Feb 2009
                • 4176

                Originally posted by Flogger23m
                This happened to me. I was supposed to get a 10/30 AK mag, but I ended up getting a 30 round mag. I disassembled it and fixed it as a 10/30.

                I have since sold the mag and the rifle.

                So legally can I now buy one 30 round 7.62x39 AK rebuild kit and rebuild it into 10+ round AK magazine?

                Or am I out of luck since I fixed it to a 10 round mag and sold it?
                hm im not 100% sure but it sounds like you legally came across a 30 round mag. you didnt import it.
                you can buy as many rebuild kits as you can afford. kinda like a rebuild kit for the rebuild kit or just for use when you go out of state.

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                • Cokebottle
                  Señor Member
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 32373

                  Originally posted by Flogger23m
                  This happened to me. I was supposed to get a 10/30 AK mag, but I ended up getting a 30 round mag. I disassembled it and fixed it as a 10/30.

                  I have since sold the mag and the rifle.

                  So legally can I now buy one 30 round 7.62x39 AK rebuild kit and rebuild it into 10+ round AK magazine?

                  Or am I out of luck since I fixed it to a 10 round mag and sold it?
                  Originally posted by luckystrike
                  hm im not 100% sure but it sounds like you legally came across a 30 round mag. you didnt import it.
                  you can buy as many rebuild kits as you can afford. kinda like a rebuild kit for the rebuild kit or just for use when you go out of state.
                  General comments from "the right people" indicate that, regardless of intent, the magazine was illegally imported (the crime did not go away when the magazine was disassembled).

                  Especially since you are no longer in possession of the high-cap, you can not today purchase a rebuild kit and make another 11+.
                  - Rich

                  Originally posted by dantodd
                  A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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                  • luckystrike
                    Veteran Member
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 4176

                    Originally posted by Cokebottle
                    General comments from "the right people" indicate that, regardless of intent, the magazine was illegally imported (the crime did not go away when the magazine was disassembled).

                    Especially since you are no longer in possession of the high-cap, you can not today purchase a rebuild kit and make another 11+.
                    hmm, he did not say specifically if he ordered it, but if and when a 11+ was sent, its the manufacturer (or whoever sent it) that imported it into the state. I vaguely remember this coming up in the past, dont recall the conclusion.

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                    • Cokebottle
                      Señor Member
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 32373

                      Originally posted by luckystrike
                      hmm, he did not say specifically if he ordered it, but if and when a 11+ was sent, its the manufacturer (or whoever sent it) that imported it into the state. I vaguely remember this coming up in the past, dont recall the conclusion.
                      The "importer" is on the receiving side... be it the customer who ordered the magazine online, or an FFL who received it in a shipment (and in that case, the customer did not import).
                      The shipper is an "exporter".
                      - Rich

                      Originally posted by dantodd
                      A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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                      • X-NewYawker
                        In Memoriam
                        • May 2008
                        • 5993

                        I SO feel the OP's pain. My mother is a real live Carnival, I guess, some call her a palm reader, but she prefers "psychical advisor." well, back in 1990 she advised my dad to stock up on all high capacity magazines -- even though they had no children, they knew someday they would...

                        Okay, don't like that one?

                        I can't believe my luck. I'm a Junior at a large Los angeles area college and an avid shooter. Last week I was crossing the 7/11 parking lot -- the one of little Tujunga by Angeles Forest Range -- and I kicked a paper bag that make a clank -- and I opened it and found 20 aluminum 30 round Colt mags! I went into the store and asked if anyone lost them...

                        THIS is why I like Calguns. for the funny threads.
                        I used to write those "penthouse letters"

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                        • pullnshoot25
                          Banned
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 8068

                          Re: Your Age and Your Pre-Ban Magazines

                          I have quite a few normal capacity magazines and I am a few months shy of 24. Nothing wrong with that.

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                          • bohoki
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Jan 2006
                            • 20771

                            should have said your dad was dead

                            and continue to say that about each guardian he claims

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                            • CSACANNONEER
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                              • Dec 2006
                              • 44092

                              Originally posted by X-NewYawker
                              I used to write those "penthouse letters"
                              For some reason, I believe you.
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                              • Phireglass
                                Member
                                • Jul 2009
                                • 296

                                Originally posted by vintagearms
                                Let me say this ...yes, they would be legal to purchase and rebuild as kits. AND, Battlefield adventures are full of idiots who havent gotten a ****ing clue. They are not a friend of the 2nd Ammendment nor a friend of CA gun owners. They will only sell handguns to sworn LEO.
                                THAANK YOU!! Finally someone who understands those people are morons, you know about a year ago a guy in there told me that in order to buy a handgun in california you have to get a liscense from the manufacturer, i just gave him the stink eye and walked out
                                Not Legal In California

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