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  • rspeed9i6
    Junior Member
    • Aug 2010
    • 74

    ar piston conversion ?'s

    i noticed most piston conversion kits come with supplied handguards for correct operation of the system....will magpul moe handguards interfere with the system?...2 piece rails?...free float?...

    im thinking of converting to piston system, but i dont like the look of the standard handguards....thx for the help guys
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    tomd1584
    Calguns Addict
    • Sep 2008
    • 5895

    it depends on what system you get.

    Daniel Defense makes a Omega Piston system that works with 'most' piston systems.
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    Direct from the website:

    Description

    The Daniel Defense Piston Omega Rail 7.0 is engineered to work with many gas piston systems and gas piston conversion kits. It is a free float rail system that allows the individual operator to easily install it with the provided Allen Key and requires ZERO modification to the weapon! The Piston Omega Rail™ features an integral QD sling swivel mount with rotation limiter, an uninterrupted upper rail platform, and a removable top cover for access to the piston components. The Piston Omega Rail is available with two different sized top covers to accomodate different sized piston components. The Mil Spec Model is compatible with ARES and LWRC piston systems and the Large Diameter is compatible with the Bushmaster and CMMG Piston Systems. This light weight rail system is meticulously CNC machined from Aircraft Grade Aluminum and is Military Specification Type III Hard Coat Anodized. All the Omega Rail fasteners are military specification

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    • #3
      goodlookin1
      Veteran Member
      • Apr 2009
      • 2557

      There's no standard for piston conversion kits, so each manufacturer must supply a "will fit" handguard/rail list.
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      • #4
        FASTASHELL
        Junior Member
        • Apr 2010
        • 91

        well if you want to put moe handguards im thinkin you might need a dremel to make them fit. as for rails youre gonna have to see how large the piston system is & how much room you have to play with on the rail system you want
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        • #5
          wash
          Calguns Addict
          • Aug 2007
          • 9011

          I think I saw on Magpul's web site that MOE handguards are claimed to be piston compatible.

          It's highly likely that they can be made to work with just about any conventional gas piston system.
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          • #6
            jesse3533
            Member
            • Sep 2009
            • 377

            I have a cmmg piston upper and it's nice but I could only find a midwest industries rail to put on it and the daniel defense piston omega rail which I have on it. super expensive btw. you can't just slap on a cheap rail on them. piston uppers are cool cause they don't get nearly as dirty. but my piston upper adds a lot of weight even w/ my light weight dd omega rail. If your gonna go piston just remember your rifle is gonna be noticeably heavier.

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            • #7
              Average Joe American
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2010
              • 582

              I have a Stag model 8 that I slightly modified the Magpul MOE hand guards to fit. 60 seconds with a dremel opened up enough room to fit the larger piston tube up front.

              I am not a fan of free float hand guards or aluminum hand guards on 16" piston guns. They soak up heat and if you are shooting targets inside of 200 yards you really dont need free floats in my opinion. I'll go free float if I ever plan to become a bench shooter with a long barrel and bipod.

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