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  • #46
    freonr22
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Dec 2008
    • 12945

    Originally posted by thefiringline
    My friend has one of these on his rifle.


    Definitely a huge difference between the PWS FSC556 and my VLTOR VC-1. Shooting a rifle with the PWS FSC556 really feels like shooting .22LR. Of course, though, they are expensive and will make RO's complain more about your rifle than the guy down the line with the Barrett.

    I would have tossed my VC-1 already for one of those if it wasn't pinned and welded.
    very nice, my friend
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    • #47
      VulpesVafrae
      Junior Member
      • Nov 2009
      • 27

      I can say my experience on this with a .308. I have an SAI M1 Scout, it came with its compensator, I'd say it worked, but it made it LOUD. I put a Smith Brake on it, it made it jump up less, but less felt recoil then the SAI brake? Hard to tell. For brakes reducing felt recoil overall against a non-brake, I'm going to have to say big time YES.

      I shot my friends Rem 700 VTR (it has a built in brake)[.308] the thing would kick back like crazy on you (Its just because I'm used to my scout). We brought a chick with us to the range, she got timid of firing the Rem 700 for fear of scope-raccoon-eye-syndrome, but felt fine shooting my Scout, watching her shoot it, you could visibly see the gun knock her back less with my Scout, compared to the VTR, and thats just two guns with different brakes!! Granted other things to take into account like the weight. (my scout is much heavier) Other then that, Brakes are great! ..If you have the proper ear protection.

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      • #48
        foxtrotuniformlima
        Veteran Member
        • Nov 2008
        • 3445

        The addition of a brake with no other changes will reduce muzzle movement but to reduce recoil, there are a few other changes to be made. Namely, adjustable gas system, lightened buffer and a lightened bolt carrier.

        The reason for all this is not just to make the gun more pleasant to shoot, but for 3 gun type competition it allows for a faster shooting . That is why I have a Surefire MB on my AR. That an it looks tacticool.
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        • #49
          Fate
          Calguns Addict
          • Apr 2006
          • 9545

          I love my MSTN QC brake. Makes triple-tapping a breeze. There's NO muzzle rise. Gasses are pushed to the side, so it's not that loud (for the shooter).

          I have been to the side of it when a friend of mine shot a few magazines worth of ammo thu it. It's windy! Good thing we don't usually set up next to each other at the range. Haha.
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          • #50
            BigBamBoo
            Calguns Addict
            • Apr 2008
            • 5210

            ..........
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            It makes it bigger and longer.

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            • #51
              kingjoey
              Banned
              • Jun 2008
              • 441

              JHC, many of these threads are a classic example of why people shouldn't believe what they read on the internet. It is a simple concept, a muzzlebrake stops a portion of the accelerated propellant (which has weight) thereby reducing the primary recoil caused by accelerating the propellant and the secondary recoil created by the propellant accelerating even faster when the bullet leaves the barrel. A muzzlebrake reduces ACTUAL recoil which in turn reduces FELT recoil. A muzzlebrake is going to be more effective on a gun with a high propellant-to-bullet weight ratio, so something like a .45ACP isn't going to get much benefit from a brake, yet a 7mm Mag will get a huge recoil reduction from one. The .223 gets a large recoil reduction from a muzzlebrake because the propellant makes up about 1/3 of the total accelerated mass (about 27grs of propellant and 55gr of bullet) so a good muzzlebrake can cut the recoil anywhere between 25-50% depending on the design and the ammo load. The recoil of a .223 isn't bad, but if you are trying to get quick follow-up shots or are running a full-auto then it makes a huge difference. We wrote up a fairly simplified explanation of the physics behind muzzlebrakes a few years ago, its still kinda eggheaded but it explains how they work and what causes recoil.

              http://kingarmory.com/My_Homepage_Files/Page77.html

              And to see a brake in action on a .223, here's an old video we put together a couple years ago of one of our units on a 10.5" M16, those aren't easy to control without a brake or comp since they weigh less and cycle faster.

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              • #52
                xxINKxx
                Veteran Member
                • Jun 2008
                • 4289

                Originally posted by DougJ
                I had a just thread protector and then put an RRA Brake on my AR. It's a featureless build so no flash suppressor. I didn't think much about it since the 5.56 has so little recoil, but the brake was cheap... However, I was watching my wife shoot it after I put the brake on and was surprised how flat the rifle stays during recoil. It makes a differance.
                Hmm..Ive been wanting the RRA brake for awhile. For the most part the standard flash hider works fine, But If a 35$ part that looks cool and helps then heck, why not...Im looking to reduce muzzle rise, and 2nd I like the RRA looks over majority of the other brands and its still cheap (dont feel like spending over a 100$ on a brake that I will have to weld due to barrel length) I just havent found alot of feedback if it even helps over a standard FH
                Last edited by xxINKxx; 09-04-2010, 5:08 PM.
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