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  • Mr.RoDiN
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2006
    • 934

    Why is my rifle so heavy?

    I have Stag H1 upper. The rifle feels heavy to me. Am I just used to carrying my kel tec? I have a mini as well, but this just seems to be as heavy as my M1-A1. Are stags equipped with heavy barrels? Should I have gone with Bushy, for a lighter feel?
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  • #2
    leelaw
    Junior Member
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Oct 2005
    • 10445

    Simply buying a Bushmaster won't affect the weight - the barrel contour and fluting will determine the weight better than a brand.

    Heavy barrels are freaking heavy, while lightweight, pencil thin, or M4 profile will be significantly lighter.

    You can always have your barrel turned down to a lighter weight, if you want.

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    • #3
      Mr.RoDiN
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2006
      • 934

      Originally posted by leelaw
      Simply buying a Bushmaster won't affect the weight - the barrel contour and fluting will determine the weight better than a brand.

      Heavy barrels are freaking heavy, while lightweight, pencil thin, or M4 profile will be significantly lighter.

      You can always have your barrel turned down to a lighter weight, if you want.
      So do I have a heavy barrel? How do I go about getting it lighter? Do I have to buy a light weight barrel?
      "Calguns, where we show our opponents our hand, tell them our next move and expect to win."

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      • #4
        E Pluribus Unum
        Calguns Addict
        • Dec 2006
        • 8097

        Originally posted by Mr.RoDiN
        I have Stag H1 upper. The rifle feels heavy to me. Am I just used to carrying my kel tec? I have a mini as well, but this just seems to be as heavy as my M1-A1. Are stags equipped with heavy barrels? Should I have gone with Bushy, for a lighter feel?
        You have an M1-A1??? Thats awesome!! Can I come over and see it??

        I only know of 4 M1A1 designation in weapons:

        M1A1 Abrams Tank
        M1A1 Bazooka
        M1A1 Carbine (M1 Carbine).

        Your AR should be heavier than the M1 Carbine... but certainly should be lighter than the others. If it is not, something is wrong.


        Now, if you meant the M1A... civilian version of the M14... a standard M16A2 is about a 1.5 pounds lighter than the M14.

        M16A2--- 8.5 pounds
        M14----- 9.9 pounds
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        • #5
          Mr.RoDiN
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2006
          • 934

          Thanks for the correction. I have an M1 A. I also have 1911 A-1. I mixed the two.
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          • #6
            Technical Ted
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Oct 2005
            • 12169

            A 16" M4 profile barreled rifle heavy????

            Using the Stag 1H upper (with detachable carry handle installed), a Stag collapsible buttstock and a fixed mag, your rifle should weigh around 7 lbs. unloaded.

            That's normal.

            The M4 profile barrel isn't a true heavy barrel. It is larger in diameter from the under the front sight base to the muzzle (except for the M203 cut out) than it is under the handguards.

            If you want to make it lighter, you could swap out the upper with a Bushmaster Superlight upper, but if--like me--you replace the detachable carry handle with a red dot, mount and rear back up iron sight, you wind up with a 7 lb rifle unloaded.
            Originally posted by ChrisTKHarris
            That is one of the most idiotic statements I've heard. You are a retard.

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            • #7
              E Pluribus Unum
              Calguns Addict
              • Dec 2006
              • 8097

              Originally posted by Mr.RoDiN
              Thanks for the correction. I have an M1 A. I also have 1911 A-1. I mixed the two.
              Darnit.... I wanted to see a tank.... or shoot a bazooka!

              Me <------ Smartarse....
              Originally posted by Alan Gura
              The Second Amendment now applies to state and local governments. Our lawsuit is a reminder to state and local bureaucrats that we have a Bill of Rights in this country, not a Bill of Needs
              Originally posted by hoffmang
              12050[CCW] licenses will be shall issue soon.

              -Gene
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              • #8
                krazek
                Member
                • Feb 2006
                • 151

                Originally posted by E Pluribus Unum
                Darnit.... I wanted to see a tank.... or shoot a bazooka!

                Me <------ Smartarse....
                lol. i have a carbine, but that isnt as special as a tank or a bazooka =P
                Numbers 6: 24-26

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                • #9
                  Technical Ted
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 12169

                  Don't forget the M1A1 Thompson submachine gun!
                  Originally posted by ChrisTKHarris
                  That is one of the most idiotic statements I've heard. You are a retard.

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                  • #10
                    E Pluribus Unum
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 8097

                    Originally posted by Technical Ted
                    Don't forget the M1A1 Thompson submachine gun!
                    That was the fourth.... for some reason when I edited my post I accidently deleted it......
                    Originally posted by Alan Gura
                    The Second Amendment now applies to state and local governments. Our lawsuit is a reminder to state and local bureaucrats that we have a Bill of Rights in this country, not a Bill of Needs
                    Originally posted by hoffmang
                    12050[CCW] licenses will be shall issue soon.

                    -Gene
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                    • #11
                      elsolo
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jan 2006
                      • 4798

                      Your rifle is too heavy because mosty AR manufacturers seem to think everybody wants a really heavy barrel.

                      Try and find a barrel that has a thinner profile, it seems like 90% of what's offered is either HBAR or bull-barrelled nowadays.

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                      • #12
                        Ruiner
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2006
                        • 1279

                        The 1H has a govt profile barrel. Go with a lightweight barrel if u wanna reduce the weight further.

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                        • #13
                          JOEKILLA
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2006
                          • 1458

                          Heavy? Humpin a 60 is heavy.
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                          • #14
                            Prc329
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Oct 2006
                            • 5603



                            Weights almost 12 pounds. The barrel under the hand guard is almost an inch in diameter.
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                            • #15
                              PIRATE14
                              Veteran Member
                              • Dec 2005
                              • 3189

                              Originally posted by Mr.RoDiN
                              I have Stag H1 upper. The rifle feels heavy to me. Am I just used to carrying my kel tec? I have a mini as well, but this just seems to be as heavy as my M1-A1. Are stags equipped with heavy barrels? Should I have gone with Bushy, for a lighter feel?
                              eat ur wheaties.......Stag 1H is a gov't profile....maybe go with a 14.5 next time.....or a CMMG superlight 14.7
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