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  • #16
    EBR Works
    Vendor/Retailer
    • Dec 2007
    • 10484

    Originally posted by UserM4
    Sometimes they're pinned and used to obey the 30" minimum length laws especially on bullpups and folders.
    There is no requirement to pin/weld a muzzle device that is used to meet the Cali 30" OAL length requirement. You would, however, need to permanently attach the device in order to meet the Federal 16" rifle barrel requirement.

    As to fake cans, they're just fun. I dated a lot of strippers.....


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    • #17
      pacrimguru
      Veteran Member
      • Sep 2008
      • 3595

      i don't mind either kind of fake cans!

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      • #18
        Marlin Hunter
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2010
        • 586

        Originally posted by JayBeeJay
        Strictly cosmetic...I'm going to use an MFI fake can on my KISS M4 build.
        KISS M4; Isn't that an oxymoron?
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        • #19
          pacrimguru
          Veteran Member
          • Sep 2008
          • 3595

          Originally posted by Marlin Hunter
          KISS M4; Isn't that an oxymoron?
          no, but jumbo shrimp, long shorts, and extra small are.

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          • #20
            Marlin Hunter
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2010
            • 586

            Originally posted by DREADNOUGHT78
            Fake cans look cool! Kinda like fake boobs.....No purpose but they make me happy!
            where can I get some fake boobs for my rifle? I think they would make a nice soft cheekrest on an AR
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            • #21
              CHS
              Moderator Emeritus
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Jan 2008
              • 11338

              Originally posted by tvfreakarms
              What is the purpose of fake cans?
              If you don't know what it is or does, it doesn't belong on your rifle.
              Please read the Calguns Wiki
              Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.
              --Cesare, Marquis of Beccaria, "On Crimes and Punishment"

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              • #22
                Hayashi Killian
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2009
                • 617

                Originally posted by impactco
                There is no requirement to pin/weld a muzzle device that is used to meet the Cali 30" OAL length requirement. You would, however, need to permanently attach the device in order to meet the Federal 16" rifle barrel requirement.

                As to fake cans, they're just fun. I dated a lot of strippers.....
                Wrong. You need to permanently attach a device to either end of the weapon to increase the length. If it's not permanently attached it doesn't really modify the length of the weapon and as soon as you take it off, bam, you've created an AW/SBR/etc.
                "Ok, sign language 101. This means stay low, this means stack up, and this means I'm gonna punch your lights out if you don't shut up!"

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                • #23
                  tenpercentfirearms
                  Vendor/Retailer
                  • Apr 2005
                  • 13007

                  I always call it an "over glorified thread protector". Basically it is either to make your gun look cool or give you one less feature.
                  www.tenpercentfirearms.com was open from 2005 until 2018. I now own Westside Arms.

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                  • #24
                    TonyM
                    In Memoriam
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 3071

                    Originally posted by Hayashi Killian
                    Wrong. You need to permanently attach a device to either end of the weapon to increase the length. If it's not permanently attached it doesn't really modify the length of the weapon and as soon as you take it off, bam, you've created an AW/SBR/etc.
                    Wrong.

                    Impacto has it right. If you read the PC, there's nothing about permanently fixing the length. You only need to perm. attach to a barrel <16 inches to not be an SBR under the NFA.
                    Disenfranchised NRA Benefactor Life Member.

                    Originally posted by NorCalK9.com
                    Also dont worry if u have never built one once you go to a build party you will know everything and have a perfect functioning rifle.

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                    • #25
                      thedrickel
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Apr 2006
                      • 5553

                      Really there is no standard of permanence for 30" OAL, but I do prefer my attachments to at least require a tool to remove. A bayonet is technically good enough to get to 30", but there's no way I'd be comfortable with something like that that could be removed with the push of a button or a turn of the wrist.
                      I hate people that are full of hate.

                      It's not illegal to tip for PPT!

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                      • #26
                        EBR Works
                        Vendor/Retailer
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 10484

                        Originally posted by thedrickel
                        there's no way I'd be comfortable with something like that that could be removed with the push of a button or a turn of the wrist.
                        That is your comfort level, but it is still perfectly legal non-permanenty attached for 30" OAL compliance.


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                        • #27
                          EWILKE
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2010
                          • 562

                          Wow what a disappointment looked inside and you were talking about suppressors. I don't know wish we could have the real thing.

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                          • #28
                            Cokebottle
                            Seņor Member
                            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 32373

                            Originally posted by TonyM
                            Wrong.

                            Impacto has it right. If you read the PC, there's nothing about permanently fixing the length. You only need to perm. attach to a barrel <16 inches to not be an SBR under the NFA.
                            Barrel < 16" or collapsed/folded OAL < 26"

                            The only reason pinning would be needed to meet California statutes is to "replace" the threaded barrel on a pistol.
                            - Rich

                            Originally posted by dantodd
                            A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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                            • #29
                              tvfreakarms
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2009
                              • 2362

                              So you can use it to shot as well? At first I thought it was only for looks and not to be used. Well what can we do about cali laws. They suck when it comes to firearms.
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                              #ifyourhandtouchesmetalI swearbymyprettyfloralbonnetIwillendyou

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                              • #30
                                anniepoks
                                Veteran Member
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 3267

                                Originally posted by tvfreakarms
                                So you can use it to shot as well? At first I thought it was only for looks and not to be used. Well what can we do about cali laws. They suck when it comes to firearms.
                                yes - perfectly legal to shoot with it.
                                featureless or not.
                                Originally posted by Kestryll
                                Boy, you just aren't too bright are you?

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