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  • #31
    badicedog
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    • Jan 2008
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    Last edited by badicedog; 05-30-2010, 6:56 PM.
    "Americans used to roar like lions for liberty;now we bleat like sheep for security."

    ~ Norman Vincent Peale

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    • #32
      badicedog
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      • Jan 2008
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      "Americans used to roar like lions for liberty;now we bleat like sheep for security."

      ~ Norman Vincent Peale

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      • #33
        JeffM
        Veteran Member
        • Sep 2007
        • 4359

        Originally posted by dieselpower
        You handled that very well man. You tossed out some info, now its their responsibility to do what they want.
        1) I met a guy from Texas who was told his listed Colt lower was ok since it has a .22lr upper.
        2) I met another guy who has a VFG on his Mini14
        3) I met a guy who told me it was ok to assemble 30rd mag kits since only magazines manufactured after 2000 were illegal and it wasn't legal to buy or sell fully assembled 30rd magazines...yeah I explained what MANUFACTURED meant.
        This is why I avoid ranges at all cost. I don't care what you think about the law unless you are a lawyer... more specifically, my lawyer. Unsolicited legal advice is wasted O2... and if there's one thing I hate, it's wasted O2 (and ink pens with missing caps, but that's another matter entirely).

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        • #34
          maxwellca21
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2009
          • 954

          Originally posted by JeffM
          This is why I avoid ranges at all cost. I don't care what you think about the law unless you are a lawyer... more specifically, my lawyer. Unsolicited legal advice is wasted O2... and if there's one thing I hate, it's wasted O2 (and ink pens with missing caps, but that's another matter entirely).
          agree! agree about the missing caps too. i hate that.
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          • #35
            badicedog
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            • Jan 2008
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            "Americans used to roar like lions for liberty;now we bleat like sheep for security."

            ~ Norman Vincent Peale

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            • #36
              Endless
              Banned
              • Feb 2010
              • 1881

              To be honest a lot of owners have illegal SBR setups whether it be here or California or anywhere. Most of these other states dont require any registration of any kind of just the uppers so its quite normal to see non-registered SBRs at the ranges. Whether they have the tax stamp with them is there business. Most here are very knowledgable.

              I saw about 5 SBR 10.5 and 11.5 LMT, Noveske uppers at the last Portland show. They were cheap and werent really selling. Only disclaimer I saw was "KNOW THE LAW BEFORE PURCHASING"... So I could go and buy one for $500 and have an illegal SBR but I work for the Government so that is out of the question.. lol

              Play by the rules and wait 3-5 months and if you are approved then you are good to go. California DOJ is a whole different ballgame.

              To OP, the gun owner knew what he had..Its up to LE to pursue him. All you can do is re-educate...
              Last edited by Endless; 05-18-2010, 12:30 AM.

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              • #37
                Jicko
                Calguns Addict
                • Dec 2005
                • 8774

                Originally posted by badicedog
                My first impression was that he was LEO. After a few hours and talking I come to find out that he is not.
                Did you know that the weapon is indeed his? Rather than loaned by other LEOs?


                I was loaned a RAW by one of the LEO for this course and for a short time a select fire lower.
                Did you go around and telling EVERYONE that the weapon that you were using was not yours? And it is a RAW or it is a MG?


                It just seemed odd to me when I saw the radd lock. I have to admit that it pissed me off a bit. Sh_t I want a SBR but can't have one here in CA, so I just daydream of a day of a free CA...
                Hey, he is willing to take the risk.... are you? lol...

                I am always jealous of non-CA'er being able to get SBR, suppressors, class3 etc...
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                • #38
                  badicedog
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                  • Jan 2008
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                  Last edited by badicedog; 05-30-2010, 6:57 PM.
                  "Americans used to roar like lions for liberty;now we bleat like sheep for security."

                  ~ Norman Vincent Peale

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                  • #39
                    -hanko
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                    CGN Contributor
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 14174

                    Originally posted by JeffM
                    ...I don't care what you think about the law unless you are a lawyer... more specifically, my lawyer. Unsolicited legal advice is wasted O2... and if there's one thing I hate, it's wasted O2...
                    Could become a motto for this board, though we'd freeze once the hot air quit.

                    -hanko
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                    • #40
                      xibunkrlilkidsx
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 5419

                      Originally posted by UserM4
                      I would've just been green with envy and pulled him aside to ask him how he got an SBR with a Raddlock. That would've gotten your answer without looking like a douchecanoe.
                      i would of done the same thing. just out of curiosity how he has it in Ca.
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                      • #41
                        dchang0
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 2772

                        A few comments:

                        1) There's no law against installing a Raddlock on a RAW or an SBR. We're making an assumption that his lower is not registered, though it might actually be. Maybe he likes the ergonomics of the V2 AR Raddlock...

                        2) When I took a tactical carbine class and went out of my way to be Calif. compliant b/c of all the LEOs, I ended up holding up the class repeatedly (10rnd mags and a BB). Considering the looks on their faces, I expect that several of the LEOs wished I had simply flown under the radar.

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                        • #42
                          badicedog
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                          • Jan 2008
                          • 3157

                          Anything is possible...
                          "Americans used to roar like lions for liberty;now we bleat like sheep for security."

                          ~ Norman Vincent Peale

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