"Not Evil" Rifle

[dfletcher]

A quick recount, my 223 Volquartsen Evolution spent 6 of it's 18 months being repaired and went back to the factory twice, last time beyond repair and was replaced by a new gun. From the start, shattered bolt assembly, 3 broken extractors and finally a cracked bolt carrier group ended it. The gun couldn't fire 100 rounds without breaking.

I just spent 4 months waiting for a replacement, was told several times "it's done" only to find it not done because they couldn't get the stock right. It finally showed today & the stock (which I specified as their brown laminate) looks like a rough, shellaced and unstained 2 X 4. So I'm done dealing with Volquartsen, the gun and experience has been nothing but a disaster from day one.

My intent is to either send the gun back to Volquartsen or sell it off.
I do like the idea of a 223 that can use detach hi caps because it has no PG. What else is out there in the $2,000.00 price range?

I have a Mini 14 being worked on by Accuracy Systems, but it's being turned into a short gun, not a target rifle per se. But I see they have some bigger heavier stuff, anyone got one from them?

Any other suggestions?

[X-NewYawker]

This really makes me sad because I have had a lot of feeding/mag related problems with my Volquartsen Evolution. As you said, the coolest IDEA for a SA rifle for CA -- I just want it to work every time.

[Jpach]

Build a featureless AR. Will most likely be cheaper than the Volquarstsh*t and more accurate.

[dfletcher]

Build a featureless AR. Will most likely be cheaper than the Volquarstsh*t and more accurate.

I have plenty of ARs, don't need another.

[technique]

Most folks say those Volquartsen guns aren't even accurate...at least not enough to justify the price tag.



Get a Keltec.....(snicker)

[Richie Caketown]

r700

[Squidward]

Take a look at the Remington 7615

[dfletcher]

This really makes me sad because I have had a lot of feeding/mag related problems with my Volquartsen Evolution. As you said, the coolest IDEA for a SA rifle for CA -- I just want it to work every time.

You know, I don't think that's ever going to happen and here's why. The gun I bought nearly 2 years ago was serial # EV00204. I remember it because mine's a 223 and the serial # is 204, the only other caliber it's made in. The one I just received is EV00324 - so in two years they've made 120 units. My theory is that anyone at Volquartsen who's involved with the Evolution is busy fixing them.

I also had mag problems with mine, wouldn't use PMags at all. I'll tell you, if that were my only problem I'd be happy as hell.

What frosts my butt on this is it took an additional 3 weeks of being told "it's done" only to find they hadn't completed the stock - then they went to the SHOT show last week and couldn't even tell me where the damn gun was. I later found out they had issues with their stock laminating process.

No one could look at the stock they sent and call it brown, it looks like pale pine with a touch of green between the laminate - not to mention the smell, the damn thing isn't even fully cured. I'd just as soon strip, stain & oil the thing myself, but if the gun doesn't shoot well I'd be trying to sell a refinished gun and if the stock warps the factory may not help. So I'm left with a rifle which, to be blunt, I want to play with about as much as an exgirlfriend.

As I told Stephanie @ Volquartsen, this is the worst gun buying/ownership experience I've ever had in 40 years of shooting. Unless there's something else out there I'm calling Accuracy Systems tomorrow, it looks like they have some heavy barreled Minis aith an accuracy guarantee. They're expensive but at least I know the damn things don't break and they work.

[dfletcher]

Most folks say those Volquartsen guns aren't even accurate...at least not enough to justify the price tag.



Get a Keltec.....(snicker)

It took me a while to find factory ammo that gave good accuracy and the UltraMax 52 BTHP reloads from Cabelas worked great. And no kidding, my friend has a Keltec, I needle the hell out of him and call it a "Kraptec" but he's been giving me hell considering that his gun has worked fine while this thing's been nothing but problems.

[X-NewYawker]

Build a featureless AR. Will most likely be cheaper than the Volquarstsh*t and more accurate.

And not as legal problem free.
No matter what you think.
"They" still have Black Rifles in their sights.
Pray for Republican Victories in November.

And the volquatrtsen is WAY more accurate than one of those Ar rattle traps.
When it fires.

[technique]

And the volquatrtsen is WAY more accurate than one of those Ar rattle traps.
When it fires.

I think (hope he chimes in) BigBamBoo may disagree with that.
I can almost bet, his JP's fire better, and more accurately. I read him saying he was very unimpressed with his volquatrtsen from an accuracy stand point. He may have even got rid of it.

[X-NewYawker]

I'm mostly sick of his knee jerk reaction:
Poster asks what Mini-14 he should buy -- everybody jumps in, "Get an AR" Poster asks which bolt action rifle to get, everybody jumps in, "Get an AR"
Poster aks which artificial heart to get, everyone jumps in, "Get an AR"

We freaking ALL have ARs. That's why we're here.
But sometimes we want appraisals of OTHER rifles.

[dfletcher]

This really makes me sad because I have had a lot of feeding/mag related problems with my Volquartsen Evolution. As you said, the coolest IDEA for a SA rifle for CA -- I just want it to work every time.

Just curious - what style stock is that?

[264charlie]

And not as legal problem free.
No matter what you think.
"They" still have Black Rifles in their sights.
Pray for Republican Victories in November.

And the volquatrtsen is WAY more accurate than one of those Ar rattle traps.
When it fires.

Understanding "we all have ARs", way spread untrue FUD? I own and know of may accurate ARs (JP anyone). I don't even think you could get WAY more accurate, regardless of platform. Randall may chime in with some groups of his neck turned ARs.

I understand the OP or you might not want a 3rd, 4th or 5th AR but don't try and justify a Volguatrtsen purchase with accuracy.

[dfletcher]

So to get away from how wonderful the AR is and back on track, anyone have a non-evil rifle semi auto rifle in mind for a few $$$ shy of two grand? Nothing on Accuracy Systems already built Minis?

Maybe I should scope a BAR and put my old 20 round mags to good use?