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  • #16
    NSR500
    Banned
    • Aug 2006
    • 19530

    I used to think the AK was barn door accurate only until I shot my friends Saiga x39, and Arsenal SGL.
    With minimal effort we are able to hit 11x9 steel plate using irons only. For a combat gun I would not hessitate to run a good AK in the field.
    If you're talking surgical bench rest accuracy, then sure, an AK may not be the best thing. You might then want to look at the CZ bolt action 527, but your accuracy may be limited by ammo.

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    • #17
      El Gato
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2009
      • 1613

      my cz will do well... won't shoot corbon dpx for snot... but will shoot wolf in under an inch.. go figure... have some 150 gr ballistic tip handloads I want to try in it soon...
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      • #18
        23 Blast
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        • Dec 2009
        • 3754

        Originally posted by olhunter
        CZ 527 Carbine. Excellent short-mid range hunting rifle. Shot MOA with the right ammo. You probably won't find a better quality bolt gun for the price in that caliber.
        As I mentioned, I have one of those. Do you shoot yours with open sights, or with a scope? I really like Cz guns. I think they are amongthe most underrated firearms out there and (used to be) great bargains. However, it seems like their secret is out, so their prices are going up.

        Fwiw, I shot both wolf bulk ammo out of my cz527m as well as more expensive brass cased ammo. Guess which one it likes? Yup, the green lacquer wolf ammo. I tell ya, those Czech girls like it rough!
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        • #19
          efnick
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          • Sep 2009
          • 401

          my vz 58 sporter i was consistantly hitting a leg sized metal plate at 150 yards with iron sights adjusted from the factory.

          (from a standing position)
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          • #20
            nn3453
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            • Apr 2009
            • 2245

            The problem with x39 isn't your CZ bolt gun. It is plenty accurate. It is the ammo. Handload your 7.62x39 and you will find out what it can do. I have seen a guy shoot sub MOA with x39 handloads.
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            • #21
              23 Blast
              Veteran Member
              • Dec 2009
              • 3754

              Originally posted by efnick
              my vz 58 sporter i was consistantly hitting a leg sized metal plate at 150 yards with iron sights adjusted from the factory.

              (from a standing position)
              I saw those for sale at turners, but I'm not enamored of fixed magazines. Does it have an option for a bullet button?
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              • #22
                SkiDevil
                Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 333

                Accurate 7.62X39 mm Rifle

                Hands Down the most accurate 7.62X39mm Self-Loading Rifle would be the Finnish Valmet. These rifles are extremely well made and accurate. Though they are not plentiful in the states, they can be found.

                The last one I saw in Person was at the Pomona Fairgrounds, prior to the closure to the Cross Roads of the West Gun Show. It was selling for $3500. That was quite a few years ago. I imagine now the price is in the neighborhood of $4-5K for an example in extremely good condition.

                The Valmet series was copied by the Israelis to design the Galil rifle. It is essentially a more robust and accurate AK variant with some subtle differences.

                The Finnish military uses a similar variant in the same 7.62X39mm chambering and regularly makes hits with these rifles at several hundred meters. In fairness, it is widely recognized that some of the most proficient riflemen in the world hail from Finland.

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                • #23
                  El Gato
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 1613

                  Originally posted by 23 Blast
                  As I mentioned, I have one of those. Do you shoot yours with open sights, or with a scope? I really like Cz guns. I think they are amongthe most underrated firearms out there and (used to be) great bargains. However, it seems like their secret is out, so their prices are going up.

                  Fwiw, I shot both wolf bulk ammo out of my cz527m as well as more expensive brass cased ammo. Guess which one it likes? Yup, the green lacquer wolf ammo. I tell ya, those Czech girls like it rough!
                  I have a 1x weaver mounted for fast work... will likely trade it out for a fixed 4x I have sitting around.. but the 1x is kinda neet.. just not as precise as it could be...
                  Greebo, as a matter of feline pride, would attempt to fight or rape absolutely anything, up to and including a four-horse logging wagon. Ferocious dogs would whine and hide under the stairs when Greebo sauntered down the street. Foxes Kept away from the village. Wolves made a detour. Terry Pratchett

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                  • #24
                    efnick
                    Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 401

                    yea the vz 58 has a metal block in place of the mag release. buy one @ turners, call up cz with the serial number i think and they will sell you a bullet button type release which works well enouph. its quicker with strip clips anyways, if you practice a lot.
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                    • #25
                      Rob454
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                      • Feb 2006
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                      I have a SKS. I have no problem hitting deer from 200 yards

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                      • #26
                        phish
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 3089

                        neck the case down to accept 6mm bullets and you've got something

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                        • #27
                          23 Blast
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                          • Dec 2009
                          • 3754

                          Originally posted by Rob454
                          I have a SKS. I have no problem hitting deer from 200 yards
                          Dang, you can throw your rifle that far?!? I'm impressed!
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                          • #28
                            ar15barrels
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Jan 2006
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                            Commonly available 7.62x39 ammo is the limiting factor for most guns.
                            The little CZ bolt actions are wonderfully accurate when you handload quality ammo for them.
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                            • #29
                              aplinker
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                              Originally posted by ar15barrels
                              Commonly available 7.62x39 ammo is the limiting factor for most guns.
                              The little CZ bolt actions are wonderfully accurate when you handload quality ammo for them.
                              They're talking about hitting 8" plates at 100yds.

                              If that's the criteria for defining "accurate" I'm not sure there's an inaccurate x39 rifle.

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                              • #30
                                ar15barrels
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                                • Jan 2006
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                                Originally posted by aplinker
                                They're talking about hitting 8" plates at 100yds.

                                If that's the criteria for defining "accurate" I'm not sure there's an inaccurate x39 rifle.
                                aww hell, I'd just use my ruger 10-22 for that.
                                MUCH cheaper...
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