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  • mydogsmonkey
    Veteran Member
    • Jan 2009
    • 4166

    interesting videos, i guess ars aren't so bad. haha

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    • wkd4496
      Member
      • Mar 2009
      • 439

      Originally posted by bombadillo
      Honestly i'm surprised that it even fired with the bolt into battery in the ready to fire position, open dust cover and pouring sand on it. I figured it would seize up there but I was wrong. I too would like to see an open bolt, pour sand into it, shake it out and see if it would get too gummed up in the lugs with sand to fire.
      That'd be a good one to view!
      "Political tags - such as royalist, communist, democrat, populist, fascist, liberal, conservative, and so forth - are never basic criteria. The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire."

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      • 4thSBCT
        Banned
        • Mar 2009
        • 2047

        Originally posted by Josh3239




        What?!? Are you actually being serious right now? How old are you? Seriously, because you sound like a 12 year old throwing a temper tantrum, you really need to get off your high horse bud. So far the only things you have done is refused to answer questions (mostly because you claim you have legions of people supporting your position which I have yet to see), insult other members or insinuate they are stupider than you, and whine and complain that the test wasn't scientific enough for you or complain about the testing media involved.

        Now after all your posts trolling you turn around and accuse me of trolling? Why? Because you couldn't come up with anything on your own? Is that your actual thought process? That if someone uses uses the Troll Smilies that are "hosted" on this forum they have just immediately outted themselves as a troll? I suppose based on your previous posts I shouldn't be surprised, besides my post probably isn't scientific enough for you. Luckily this will be the last of your Troll bait I'll response to. Welcome back to my ignore list (the only reason you came off was to respond to your ridiculous post).
        I'm sorry you are so upset. Try not to be discouraged when someone on the internet doesnt agree with you.
        Last edited by 4thSBCT; 10-26-2009, 2:33 PM.

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        • socomIInato
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2008
          • 880

          must be a reason mikhail put a dust cover on his rifle. he didn`t want any foreign material in the reciever area. come on guys use some logic, not emotion. that`s what liberal use.

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          • dieselpower
            Banned
            • Jan 2009
            • 11471

            IMHO, many people here at first, saw the weapon was port side down, door closed, then stopped watching. They then saw the AK tested in a different way and then POSTED here.

            Some people watched all the vids, and knowing both platforms immediately called foul with the AK safety. Now after thinking it over most would agree with us, this was a real world testing of both platforms in a state of ready carried by a person in a firefight or conflict.

            And as for the guy asking to see an AR15 with BCG back and filled with sand I will tell you a little story of mine.
            I was doing some shooting with guys in Texas, we were run and gunning a course. My AR jammed. While running to my next cover point, I ejected the mag and as I pulled the CH back to eject the jammed round, I tripped and ate sand...so did the AR. In during the fall I bent the CH, locking the bolt 1/2 into battery and packing it with sand and dirt. I was able to replace the CH after screwing with it for what seemed like an hour. After that the weapon jammed a lot. It took a very thorough cleaning to get it to run right.

            No one would even jokingly state an AR15 can't be jammed with dirt or crud, we are saying the AK isnt a whole lot better.
            Last edited by dieselpower; 10-26-2009, 3:55 PM.

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            • Mr.Pickles
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2009
              • 637

              Originally posted by sspen003
              Ill do it with my homebuilt AK this weekend if anyone wants to roll
              personally would like to do this to a SKS too but I would hate to kill my russian....
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              • SMGLee
                Member
                • Sep 2002
                • 431

                Originally posted by dieselpower
                No one would even jokingly state an AR15 can't be jammed with dirt or crud, we are saying the AK isnt a whole lot better.

                Well Stated...I don't think there is a weapon platform that will run when it is full of sand!
                Fly Low,
                And Avoid The Radar.

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                • sspen003
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2009
                  • 1003

                  Originally posted by SMGLee
                  Well Stated...I don't think there is a weapon platform that will run when it is full of sand!
                  My knife or bow and arrow would haha
                  "The God of War hates those who hesitate."

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                  • bomb_on_bus
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 5492

                    should have done this vid with silt and fine grain sand
                    Originally posted by aklon
                    In 1775 we stood up.

                    In 1776 we announced we would not be sitting back down.

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                    Ahhhhhhhhhhh! Man that was some great Kool-Aid.......... hmmmmmm theres a hint of something metallic. Oh well guess I will get on with the voting.

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                    • Fot
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 1611

                      Oh a good old Chevy vs Ford debate.
                      Originally posted by FastFinger
                      We are a dynamic community that reflects society at large. If there is a trait that distinguishes us it is that we're protectors of the the infirm, the elderly, and defenseless women (often sorority sisters who like beer & pillow fights). That means that at some point we may be called on to do battle with zombies. That is nothing to be ashamed of. .

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                      • 4thSBCT
                        Banned
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 2047

                        Originally posted by dieselpower
                        Some people watched all the vids, and knowing both platforms immediately called foul with the AK safety.Now after thinking it over most would agree with us, this was a real world testing of both platforms in a state of ready carried by a person in a firefight or conflict.
                        Yea everyone who doesn't know how to properly handle a rifle agrees with you. Most people know the safety only comes off when your about to pull the trigger and goes right back on after you fire. With that being said, The AK's dust cover would be closed in a realistic situation. In addition, Even if there was an amature running around with the safety off on his AK there's no way you would get the amount of dirt they shoveled into that AK by falling or dropping your rifle. These things are pretty common sense. Most people on this thread picked up on them.

                        From Spetsnaz in the war in Chechnya to EVEN rebels in Somolia, with zero training, don't buy your safetys off scenario. Even they know to keep it on. So much for your real world scenario.




                        Originally posted by socomIInato
                        must be a reason mikhail put a dust cover on his rifle. he didn`t want any foreign material in the reciever area. come on guys use some logic, not emotion. that`s what liberal use.
                        Last edited by 4thSBCT; 10-26-2009, 9:20 PM.

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                        • five.five-six
                          CGN Contributor
                          • May 2006
                          • 34704

                          the AR15 can take dirt

                          proof!

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                          • Ruiner
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2006
                            • 1279

                            Originally posted by SMGLee
                            Well Stated...I don't think there is a weapon platform that will run when it is full of sand!
                            Pointy sticks and rocks!

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                            • Joe788
                              Member
                              • Apr 2009
                              • 135

                              Originally posted by 4thSBCT
                              Yea everyone who doesn't know how to properly handle a rifle agrees with you. Most people know the safety only comes off when your about to pull the trigger and goes right back on after you fire. With that being said, The AK's dust cover would be closed in a realistic situation. In addition, Even if there was an amature running around with the safety off on his AK there's no way you would get the amount of dirt they shoveled into that AK by falling or dropping your rifle. These things are pretty common sense. Most people on this thread picked up on them.

                              From Spetsnaz in the war in Chechnya to EVEN rebels in Somolia, with zero training, don't buy your safetys off scenario. Even they know to keep it on. So much for your real world scenario.

                              Haha!! Yeah! Those guys really look like they are in the heat of battle. Love the guy with his legs crossed!

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                              • Vtec44
                                Senior Member
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 2237

                                Originally posted by Joe788
                                Haha!! Yeah! Those guys really look like they are in the heat of battle. Love the guy with his legs crossed!
                                You gotta protect your giggleberies some how
                                "When chosing between two evils, I always like to try the one I've never tried before." - Mae West

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