a quieter AR15 muzzle accessory?

[Powersauce]

id love to use the fire breathing pig accessory but unfortunately i dont have hte right rails, mine will be carbine length . . . maybe sometime down teh road i will grind down my FSB, trade someone for longer rails, and cut & pin my barrel wtih the KX3

Whats that? Sounds interesting.

[pklin1297]

I've read several threads on ARFCOM about how loud the Levang was for their users, so maybe you should stay away from that one as well...

Wes from TenPercent posted the DNTC comp he was thinking about stocking in his store. That comp looked amazing at controlling recoil on the video on the website, and does not sound loud either according to Wes.

http://www.akconcepts.com/default.asp?page_id=174&parent_id=44

[grywlfbg]

I'll be trying out the DNTC comp tomorrow night at my local indoor range. I'll have it side by side w/ the A2 flash hider on my other AR. Group buy going on at ar15.com - $45 shipped.

I too was impressed w/ the video of the guy one-handed firing an AR on full auto. I'm hoping it'll help me keep the rifle on target for tac rifle competition.

Chris

[tenpercentfirearms]

I've read several threads on ARFCOM about how loud the Levang was for their users, so maybe you should stay away from that one as well...

Wes from TenPercent posted the DNTC comp he was thinking about stocking in his store. That comp looked amazing at controlling recoil on the video on the website, and does not sound loud either according to Wes.

http://www.akconcepts.com/default.as...4&parent_id=44

This is not accurate. I have never used the DNTC so I have no idea what it sounds like. I did order some and I they will be on my website when they come in. I will probably do a flash hider/muzzle brake/fake suppressor review in the next couple of weeks sometime.

[slingshot]

+1
I have one on my Keltec and it works great. There is a noticeable drop in DB's when you use it. I fired 10 shots without ears (by mistake) and It didn't hurt my ears after. I didn't even notice I had forgot my ears until my buddy reminded me. I was caught in the moment of having fun bump-firing but still, normally I would have felt the pain in my ears after the first shot. I really like the Levang and found that it has not affected accuracy at all. Pulled a sub-MOA group with my SU-16CA with it on the end.

Little off topic, but do US Army soldiers use any sort of ear protection, perhaps something built into the helmet?

[pklin1297]

This is not accurate. I have never used the DNTC so I have no idea what it sounds like. I did order some and I they will be on my website when they come in. I will probably do a flash hider/muzzle brake/fake suppressor review in the next couple of weeks sometime.

Sorry Wes, it was your RRA tactical comp you shot... I was cross eyed for a moment... Looking forward to your review of the DNTC comp and possibly being your first DNTC buyer if reviews are favorable.

Sorry for hijacking the thread a bit...

[grammaton76]

Little off topic, but do US Army soldiers use any sort of ear protection, perhaps something built into the helmet?

At least as of the late 80's, there were these dark green plastic earplug boxes that they carried, with dull orange rubber (double or triple flange, forgot) earplugs inside.

[mltrading]

I'd say do not try to make any firearm "quieter" in CA.

I've read this article of an airgun forum. The owner of airgun silencer got trouble no matter the silencer is for airguns only.

The point is, the BATFE agents put the airgun-only silencer on a real .22 firearm and fired then found the "silencer" indeed reduce the sound level. Although the "silencer" was destroyed after several shots with a real firearm, it still meets the definition of a firearm silencer (according to BATFE agents). The judge wants to charge the owner of airgun-only silencer.

Just think about it before you do any "quietier firearm" experiments, especially we are in nazi-controlled California.......

[arguy15]

At least as of the late 80's, there were these dark green plastic earplug boxes that they carried, with dull orange rubber (double or triple flange, forgot) earplugs inside.

For training, somtimes. For combat almost never. Being on patrol in a quiet neiborhood, you need to hear everything.

[grywlfbg]

Update on the DNTC comp from my indoor range session last night. In a confined space (my local range only has 3 rifle lanes separate from the pistol lines so it's a pretty small space), I deem the noise to be the same as the A2 flash hider on my fixed mag rifle (but due to the size of the space may not mean anything). Recoil feels the same but it's more linear (rifle doesn't try to "climb" like it does w/ the A2 hider).

I'll be out at Chabot doing rifle PPC this wkend and will chime back in on outdoor performance.

In all I deem the DNTC to be a better "compensator" than the A2 hider - I find I can return to target more quickly than w/ the A2 hider.

I may put the RRA tactical brake onto my fixed mag build and compare the two (or I'll just wait for Wes to do it ).

One benefit of the DNTC (and all brakes I guess) is that it works like a built-in crown guard for feeding cleaning rods into the muzzle. However I have a problem as I also use a bore snake and the tip gets hung up in the brake to the point I have to use needle nose pliers to get it to feed.

Chris

[tgriffin]

Sorry to resurrect a long dead thread, but im looking to purchase one of these. Anyone have further comment on the Linear Compensator?

[12voltguy]

The Noveske KX3 is listed on this page as a "Flash Suppressor".
The other ones on that same page (including the standard A2 brake) are all listed as "Flash Hiders".

Note CPC 12276.1 (1) (E) prohibits "Flash Suppressor" but makes no mention of "Flash Hider".

DOJ stated

ATF says the piggy is a "Flash Suppressor"
so don't try it on a featurless build

[Merc1138]

Holy zombie thread batman!