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  • Socal858
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2006
    • 2177

    a quieter AR15 muzzle accessory?

    no not a silencer

    still working on my first build (paychecks are clearing, then purchasing m4gery upper with samson MFRS, tangodown forward toilet paper dispenser, prince50, CAR stock)

    sooo . .

    i will be spending time in indoor ranges (and some outdoor). i hear everyone talking about how loud some models of muzzle brake are.


    out of all the accessories out there, which are the quieter ones? id rather hvae a little less boom when im in doors.


    btw my builds will be fixed mag so it doesnt matter if you recommend a flash hider or a brake

    thanks!


    EDIT: disclaimer: i am only talking about devices that project the sound AWAY from shooter & pals, not resulting in a modification of pitch or reduction in total decibels. because that is whats legal.
    Last edited by Socal858; 01-09-2007, 10:18 PM.
  • #2
    Aluisious
    Banned
    • Nov 2006
    • 1934

    Damn...I saw the title and I was going to say silencer.

    IMO, isn't a target crown going to be the least noisey option for the shooter? It makes the noise go over there. Anything blowing gas out the sides will also blow noise out the sides.

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    • #3
      naimad
      Veteran Member
      • Mar 2006
      • 4477

      noveke kx3 flash suppressor www.noveskerifleworks.com

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      • #4
        bwiese
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Oct 2005
        • 27621

        My 16" carbines are loud.

        The Noveske KX3 "piggy brake" would help you - sound pressure thrown forward.
        It does not reduce sound, just redirects it - important legal consideration.

        Bill Wiese
        San Jose, CA

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        • #5
          Socal858
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2006
          • 2177

          id love to use the fire breathing pig accessory but unfortunately i dont have hte right rails, mine will be carbine length . . . maybe sometime down teh road i will grind down my FSB, trade someone for longer rails, and cut & pin my barrel wtih the KX3

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          • #6
            megavolt121
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2006
            • 1552

            Originally posted by bwiese
            My 16" carbines are loud.

            The Noveske KX3 "piggy brake" would help you - sound pressure thrown forward.
            It does not reduce sound, just redirects it - important legal consideration.
            This is a flash hider, correct?

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            • #7
              Socal858
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2006
              • 2177

              Originally posted by bwiese
              My 16" carbines are loud.

              The Noveske KX3 "piggy brake" would help you - sound pressure thrown forward.
              It does not reduce sound, just redirects it - important legal consideration.

              thanks bill!


              sooo out of your 16" carbines, which accessory, besides the KX3, redirects sound the best away from you and fellow shooters

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              • #8
                taquito971
                Member
                • Nov 2006
                • 146

                You could look at the Levang linear compensator from Brownells...

                Though I don't understand what part of your rifle prevents you from using the KX-3.

                Brian

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                • #9
                  ARRRR-15
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 1207

                  I've been thinking about trying this out, though I have'nt heard much about it.



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                  • #10
                    bu-bye
                    Veteran Member
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 2835

                    Originally posted by taquito971
                    You could look at the Levang linear compensator from Brownells...

                    Though I don't understand what part of your rifle prevents you from using the KX-3.

                    Brian
                    +1
                    I have one on my Keltec and it works great. There is a noticeable drop in DB's when you use it. I fired 10 shots without ears (by mistake) and It didn't hurt my ears after. I didn't even notice I had forgot my ears until my buddy reminded me. I was caught in the moment of having fun bump-firing but still, normally I would have felt the pain in my ears after the first shot. I really like the Levang and found that it has not affected accuracy at all. Pulled a sub-MOA group with my SU-16CA with it on the end.
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                    • #11
                      AJAX22
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • May 2006
                      • 14980

                      In theory a 10 (or so) inch empty tube with a 1.5 inch or 2 inch inner diameter threaded on the end of your rifle would focus all the sound in a tight cone out the end of the gun towards the target.

                      I think they make something like this called a brush guard for hunting in dry areas.

                      of course I could be totally wrong, its happened before.
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                      • #12
                        Socal858
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2006
                        • 2177

                        Originally posted by taquito971
                        You could look at the Levang linear compensator from Brownells...

                        Though I don't understand what part of your rifle prevents you from using the KX-3.

                        Brian

                        the only thing stopping me from using hte KX3 is how it would look with a lot of exposed barrel behind it. i will have a carbine/m4gery type samson rail with a ton of barrel popping out

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                        • #13
                          taquito971
                          Member
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 146

                          Originally posted by Socal858
                          the only thing stopping me from using hte KX3 is how it would look with a lot of exposed barrel behind it. i will have a carbine/m4gery type samson rail with a ton of barrel popping out
                          10-4. I think it would look fine, but looks are subjective in nature. And I don't worry about looks much. The Levang is supposed to be a good product.

                          Brian

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                          • #14
                            Fjold
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 22799

                            Originally posted by taquito971
                            10-4. I think it would look fine, but looks are subjective in nature. And I don't worry about looks much. The Levang is supposed to be a good product.

                            Brian
                            I'm going to have to look at the levang, the YHM muzzle brake that I put on is a real brake. Recoil is nothing but the noise is awesome.
                            Frank

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                            • #15
                              megavolt121
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2006
                              • 1552

                              Originally posted by echoplex
                              The Noveske KX3 is listed on this page as a "Flash Suppressor".
                              The other ones on that same page (including the standard A2 brake) are all listed as "Flash Hiders".

                              Note CPC 12276.1 (1) (E) prohibits "Flash Suppressor" but makes no mention of "Flash Hider".

                              DOJ stated
                              Oh yea nice and clear [/sarcasam].
                              I know that the DOJ only classifies based off operation, not the naming convention. Thanks to the well written laws, I was never sure how the KX-3 is classified. I knwo it directs muzzle blast forward, but what about flash and fire? I mean techincally forward of the barrel is still in my field of vision.

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