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  • #16
    TwitchALot
    Member
    • Dec 2007
    • 314

    Originally posted by chsk9
    Are there any buffers that don't "TWANG"?
    That's perfectly normal. I used a light coat of Weaponshield on the buffer spring to pretty much eliminate the noise. Some will say that oil in that area should be avoided because it'll attract dust, but if you let the WS/CLP/whatever dry off, it'll be fine.

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    • #17
      Q
      Calguns Addict
      • Aug 2006
      • 6641

      Originally posted by chsk9
      Are there any buffers that don't "TWANG"?
      ran a utg buffer and spring in my middy. flawless and no twang sound.
      2024 New Year?s resolution will be no posting..

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      • #18
        Blacktail 8541
        Senior Member
        • May 2006
        • 1567

        Originally posted by bombadillo
        Oh, whats the damage to the rifle using a carbine buffer in a rifle extension? I couldn't figure out any real potential damage that could happen. Maybe to the charging handle or bolt?? Where would that occur?
        The potential damage could occur during the recoil cycle. The bolt carrier group will impact the receiver extension via the gas key as the buffer and spring combo is shorter than the rifle length combination.
        BT 8541

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        • #19
          ar15barrels
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jan 2006
          • 57103

          Originally posted by chsk9
          Are there any buffers that don't "TWANG"?
          Twang is a new shooter problem.
          Experienced shooters never seem to complain about it.

          Embrace the twang.
          You will come to appreciate it when you start noticing the difference on the last shot of your mag.
          Randall Rausch

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          • #20
            ar15barrels
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jan 2006
            • 57103

            Originally posted by Blacktail 8541
            The bolt carrier group will impact the receiver extension charging handle via the gas key as the buffer and spring combo is shorter than the rifle length combination.
            Fixed.
            Randall Rausch

            AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
            Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
            Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
            Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
            Most work performed while-you-wait.

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            • #21
              Blacktail 8541
              Senior Member
              • May 2006
              • 1567

              Originally posted by ar15barrels
              Fixed.
              Didn't need to be fixed as you are wrong.

              The base of the gas key will impact the receiver extension before the top of the gas key impacts the charging handle.
              BT 8541

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              • #22
                NeoWeird
                Veteran Member
                • Dec 2005
                • 3342

                Either way, it will hit one and has the potential to hit the other...and then some.

                The best way I can describe it for new shooters is to explain it like a door with a spring door stop. You can slam that door against the wall all day. Put the wrong spring there though, or none at all, and you're damaging walls. Except in this case, it's not walls but relatively thin aluminum...and then your face.

                A rifle buffer in a carbine tube will not allow the charging handle to be charged to the rear completely so loading would be difficult and would need someone to intentionally know there is a problem and manually load a round anyway. Carbine in a rifle tube is like setting up a NASCAR course with a soft barrier....behind the brick wall.
                quemadmodum gladius neminem occidit, occidentis telum est. - Lucius Annaeus
                a sword never kills anybody; it's a tool in the killer's hand.

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                • #23
                  bombadillo
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 14810

                  This is only like 3 years old, but I came across it again. I'm going to play with options. Reading my above question before I really did a lot of research on buffers, what they do, and how they work, and different weight options, what I did when I ran a carbine buffer in a rifle tube, was using a rifle length spring, but a carbine buffer. Also, I was running a JP Low Mass Buffer in it the LMOS kit. That probably helped from having too much mass moving rearward creating any kind of damage. Still interested in this and other people potentially could still benefit from the thread so I'll revive it for now. Been digging old threads up from the grave a lot lately.

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