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  • #16
    ysr_racer
    Banned
    • Mar 2006
    • 12014

    Originally posted by beanz2
    You PMed me about it
    I send and spew so much bull crap, I can't keep tract of it all.

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    • #17
      FeuerFrei
      Calguns Addict
      • Aug 2008
      • 7455

      Originally posted by beanz2
      It’s all about how fast you can return your sight to the target.

      Thanks!
      Gotcha. Bounce vs recoil.

      I have shot NFA'ed MP5, STEN and Uzi smg's. There was a difference in behavior from open bolt vs closed bolt as far as hosing targets. *Closed bolt was easier to control. The weight had a huge difference in "bounce". All the bolts were bearded fat lady at the circus category.

      I would definitely say the HK allowed easier ability to stay on target.
      The STEN needed NATO ammo to run reliably. Soft commercial stuff caused occasional gag reflex. Noticed a change in bounce/recoil. Still easy to keep on target. Proper stock helps.

      *Burst fire
      Last edited by FeuerFrei; 08-14-2022, 10:58 AM.

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      • #18
        JWHuey
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2011
        • 2300

        Its the rollerlockin.

        My ptr32 in 762x39 with a surefire brake is like shooting a 22....
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        • #19
          highpower
          Calguns Addict
          • May 2012
          • 5292

          I did a similar test between my AP5 and my CZ Scorpion and had the same basic results. That's not to say the the Scorpion isn't a accurate and fun little carbine, but the roller lock is just smoother.

          In my case the guns were as close to being equipped identically a I could get them ergonomically.

          Last edited by highpower; 08-14-2022, 5:19 PM.
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          • #20
            beanz2
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Nov 2008
            • 12031

            Originally posted by JWHuey
            Its the rollerlockin.

            My ptr32 in 762x39 with a surefire brake is like shooting a 22....
            With the rollerlocked delay and the PTR32 heft, that is no doubt a soft shooter!

            Originally posted by highpower
            I did a similar test between my AP5 and my CZ Scorpion and had the same basic results. That's not to say the the Scorpion isn't a accurate and fun little carbine, but the roller lock is just smoother.

            In my case the guns were as close to being equipped identically a I could get them ergonomically.

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            • #21
              highpower
              Calguns Addict
              • May 2012
              • 5292

              I think I got it fixed..
              MLC member.

              Biden, proof that stupid people shouldn't be allowed to vote.

              Dumocraps suck balls.

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              • #22
                FNGGlock
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2020
                • 1289

                Originally posted by ysr_racer
                I just bought this roller delayed kit for my PCC from https://coreys28.sg-host.com/

                It's an easy install.

                OP, where do you live? Want to compare it?

                Very pricey, but would love to hear your feedback as it compares to the RDB system for recoil management.

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                • #23
                  ysr_racer
                  Banned
                  • Mar 2006
                  • 12014

                  Originally posted by FNGGlock
                  Very pricey, but would love to hear your feedback as it compares to the RDB system for recoil management.
                  I've already got a PCC with a CMMG RDB Radial Delayed Blowback 9mm (barrel and bolt carrier).

                  I'm going to swap this system into my Lead Star PCC, and compare them.

                  The technology is different, but the idea is the same. Keep the gun in battery longer.

                  The CMMG RDB Radial Delayed Blowback 9mm barrel and bolt is $500. The Scheel kit is only $300.

                  I'm guessing they work about the same, however the Scheel kit is a 10 minute install on an existing gun.
                  Last edited by ysr_racer; 08-14-2022, 5:51 PM.

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