what's so great about KAC?

[kevman0154]

KAC is a well known almost Iconic .mil supplier so all their products will demand more money because of that. Every post 9/11 Vet who has ever held a rifle or carbine has seen the KAC logo or referenced.

Other then that they fall in with the lot of "high end" AR manufacturers honestly.

[kevman0154]

KAC is a well known almost Iconic .mil supplier so all their products will demand more money because of that. Every post 9/11 Vet who has ever held a rifle or carbine has seen the KAC logo or referenced.

Other then that they fall in with the lot of "high end" AR manufacturers honestly.

[CheapBloke]

You know the saying, the govt pays $100 for a hammer and $10000 for a toilet seat? I believe same could be applied with firearms.

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[ThinkKrink415]

If you were able to pick up an sr15/30 rifle several years ago or even piecing it together by getting a complete upper assembly and complete knights lower, it was a pretty good deal considering what you’re getting in the package. Along with their innovation of the E3 system, you were getting a chf chrome lined barrel, badass urx rail, decent muzzle device (mod2), some top notch iron sights, ambi lower with 2 stage match trigger, enhanced trigger guard (best looking in the industry imo) and LMT sopmod stock. The thing was feature rich compared to others where you weren’t getting jack. So yeah the juice was totally worth the squeeze compared to other rifles in its price point or even less.

[ThinkKrink415]

[FeuerFrei]

IIRC they went with a 13" gas system out of the 18" barrel that ran smoother/flatter than a carbine gassed system. Reducing the OAL to be shorter than a GI M16 du jour.

The rest is a mix or proprietary features that comes with. The E3 bolt and other related bits are there to help when the giddy up switch is engaged.

They do have a rep in the industry from the Mil.gov Inc. and LE sides that operate on a certain level.

*Lone survivor operation red wing Marcus Luttrell was said to have taken his rifle down the side of a mountain. Firing when he could. He and the rifle saved/took lives until it ran dry. I think it was a Mk12 KAC assembly.

Buy the book Five star reading. 5/5

[FeuerFrei]

IIRC they went with a 13" gas system out of the 18" barrel that ran smoother/flatter than a carbine gassed system. Reducing the OAL to be shorter than a GI M16 du jour.

The rest is a mix or proprietary features that comes with. The E3 bolt and other related bits are there to help when the giddy up switch is engaged.

They do have a rep in the industry from the Mil.gov Inc. and LE sides that operate on a certain level.

*Lone survivor operation red wing Marcus Luttrell was said to have taken his rifle down the side of a mountain. Firing when he could. He and the rifle saved/took lives until it ran dry. I think it was a Mk12 KAC assembly.

Buy the book Five star reading. 5/5

[static2126]

I don't understand what perfectly gassed means. I've never shot any AR and thought, "it's perfectly gassed". It's all BS. I have a friend who is a Sheriff and we go out to range used by local PD. He brought out a basic Colt 6920 LE. It only had a Aimpoint Pro on. He said, it was the department beater rifle.

It had zero lubrication. It was light weight and basic. It shot just fine & no issues even with no lube. When I was shooting it I never once thought "it perfectly gassed'. It actually made me question the reason why I have all the Gucci ARs that I own.

But we all know you're going to by into the hype and there is nothing wrong with that.

The rifle feels a certain way shooting at speed and doing doublw/triple taps.

KAC's gas system is amazing. Have 2 or 3k through different KACs. Softer shooting and faster splits than my BCMs, Colts, Sionics, Smith and Wesson and Centurions.

That said I don't own a KAC because cost to benefit isn't worth it to me

[static2126]

Is kac really worth the money? To me no I'd rather have lmt, lwrc, or a hk416

Not sure if you have shot all of those but imo the KAC is vastly superior. I despise the HK416 and whatever the civilian version is.

[BucDan]

All of the improvements KAC made was with the assistance of the legendary Eugene Stoner himself. Stoner finished his career at KAC, so KAC had a monopoly on his studies and work. It's hard to beat that.

Brands like Radian make no sense. Nothing they do is special, just priced high and looks pretty.

LMT and HK are the only other true high end rifles imo. They both also made improvements to the AR platform.

KAC, LMT, HK, best of the best imo.

Then DD, BCM, Colt, LWRC, Radian etc. Because They use off the shelf parts you can find at any store, specifically the bolt, carrier, barrel extension, gas, etc. Radian is stupidly over priced.

[sigstroker]

But you don't know anything about the design or parts that make it that way?

[sigstroker]

I don't understand what perfectly gassed means. I've never shot any AR and thought, "it's perfectly gassed". It's all BS. I have a friend who is a Sheriff and we go out to range used by local PD. He brought out a basic Colt 6920 LE. It only had a Aimpoint Pro on. He said, it was the department beater rifle.

It had zero lubrication. It was light weight and basic. It shot just fine & no issues even with no lube. When I was shooting it I never once thought "it perfectly gassed'. It actually made me question the reason why I have all the Gucci ARs that I own.

But we all know you're going to by into the hype and there is nothing wrong with that.

Ah, no. I have a 6920. I asked the question in the OP because I actually want to know the answer.

[sigstroker]

IIRC they went with a 13" gas system out of the 18" barrel that ran smoother/flatter than a carbine gassed system. Reducing the OAL to be shorter than a GI M16 du jour.

The rest is a mix or proprietary features that comes with. The E3 bolt and other related bits are there to help when the giddy up switch is engaged.

They do have a rep in the industry from the Mil.gov Inc. and LE sides that operate on a certain level.

*Lone survivor operation red wing Marcus Luttrell was said to have taken his rifle down the side of a mountain. Firing when he could. He and the rifle saved/took lives until it ran dry. I think it was a Mk12 KAC assembly.

Buy the book Five star reading. 5/5

OR...

You believe the version that says he came off the mountain with all the ammo he went up the mountain with.

[sigstroker]

Okay, we got some real info. Let's break it down.

Along with their innovation of the E3 system, you were getting a chf chrome lined barrel,

So, bolt and barrel. Makes sense, since they are proprietary.

badass urx rail,

I've heard about it, but not familiar with anything about it. Why is it badass?

decent muzzle device (mod2), some top notch iron sights,

I'll either not have a muzzle device or it will be one with a silencer mount. Don't need iron sights because I can hardly see.

ambi lower with 2 stage match trigger, enhanced trigger guard (best looking in the industry imo)

Don't need ambi because I'm right handed.

and LMT sopmod stock.

Have one already.

A lot of the features I don't need or can't use, but things like the bolt and barrel determine it's longevity and reliability. Thanks for the info!

[AKSOG]

IIRC they went with a 13" gas system out of the 18" barrel that ran smoother/flatter than a carbine gassed system. Reducing the OAL to be shorter than a GI M16 du jour.

The rest is a mix or proprietary features that comes with. The E3 bolt and other related bits are there to help when the giddy up switch is engaged.

They do have a rep in the industry from the Mil.gov Inc. and LE sides that operate on a certain level.

*Lone survivor operation red wing Marcus Luttrell was said to have taken his rifle down the side of a mountain. Firing when he could. He and the rifle saved/took lives until it ran dry. I think it was a Mk12 KAC assembly.

Buy the book Five star reading. 5/5

Only a few parts on the MK12 are KAC like the HG, trigger, and sights.