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  • mountaindweller
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2009
    • 528

    Can an AR pistol....?

    ....be attached with a stock? I am thinking about future purchase of an AR pistol but would eventually want to at a stock to it.......is this possible?
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    SJgunguy24
    I need a LIFE!!
    • May 2008
    • 14849

    Originally posted by mountaindweller
    ....be attached with a stock? I am thinking about future purchase of an AR pistol but would eventually want to at a stock to it.......is this possible?
    No then it would be a Short Barrel Rifle.
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      IMC87
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2008
      • 1273

      Not in cali it aint
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      • #4
        mountaindweller
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2009
        • 528

        Originally posted by SJgunguy24
        No then it would be a Short Barrel Rifle.
        Aaaahhhh....got it. Stupid California rules. Thanks.

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          ZombieKiller
          Veteran Member
          • Apr 2007
          • 2555

          Well it can be....if you like close living quarters and a loving room mate.
          "The bitterness of poor quality is remembered long after the sweetness of low price has faded from memory...."

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          • #6
            luchador768
            Veteran Member
            • Jan 2009
            • 3224

            Originally posted by mountaindweller
            Aaaahhhh....got it. Stupid California rules. Thanks.
            Federal law too.

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              B Strong
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
              CGN Contributor
              • Feb 2009
              • 6367

              Originally posted by mountaindweller
              ....be attached with a stock? I am thinking about future purchase of an AR pistol but would eventually want to at a stock to it.......is this possible?
              With an approved Form 1, a $200.00 tax stamp and the CLEO sign-off.

              And you have to be a free state, too.
              The way some gunshop clerks spout off, you'd think that they invented gunpowder and the repeating rifle, and sat on the Supreme Court as well.
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              • #8
                CHS
                Moderator Emeritus
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Jan 2008
                • 11338

                You could add a stock and a 16" barrel, but then it could never be a pistol again.

                That part is actually legal.

                16" barrel, 30" MIN OAL, Bullet button, 10rd mag should be the end result.
                Please read the Calguns Wiki
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                • #9
                  Ducman
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 2107

                  Originally posted by bdsmchs
                  You could add a stock and a 16" barrel, but then it could never be a pistol again.
                  EEEEHHHHHH !! You can put a 16' upper on a Pistol and later change it back to shorter barrel just make sure you take off the stock first!

                  ETA: Edited for clarification.
                  ETA: re-read the whole thread, my bad. Seems to be in the gray area.I should have read the whole thread before assumptions.



                  Step away from AR-15s for a minute, and let's pretend you have a single shot T/C Contender with a 10" barrel, in say, .223. It's LOUD. But you want to nail some jackrabbits out there, so you need a little more accuracy and a little less drop.

                  Q: A longer barrel?
                  A: Yes, and in this case, let's say you want a shoulder stock. So you buy a 16" T/C barrel, and you buy the shoulder stock attachment. So you take the 10" barrel off FIRST, then you install the 16" barrel and shoulder stock. When you're done with jackrabbits and want your 10" barrel back on, you take the shoulder stock off FIRST and then swap out the barrels.

                  Q: So I can do the same thing with ARs?
                  A: Yes. Just never never NEVER build a pistol out of a rifle receiver.
                  Here's a link to FAQ regarding AR Pistols
                  Firearm Discussion and Resources from AR-15, AK-47, Handguns and more! Buy, Sell, and Trade your Firearms and Gear.
                  Last edited by Ducman; 06-13-2009, 11:22 AM.
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                  • #10
                    munkeeboi
                    Veteran Member
                    • May 2008
                    • 4925

                    I wouldn't say it's a complete Fail...here are 2 links, that question the validity of what the AR15 faq says. Besides the T/C contender, once a rifle always a rifle. It's up for debate, but just wanted to make sure the OP knew that it isn't a clear cut rule.





                    specifically this post, second to last paragraph

                    Originally posted by Quiet
                    On page 2 of this BATFE letter.

                    BATFE is taking the stance that going from pistol to rifle to pistol without NFA approval, is limited to only the Thompson Center Contender.

                    Last edited by munkeeboi; 06-13-2009, 10:33 AM.


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                    • #11
                      FNG TJ
                      Junior Member
                      • Apr 2009
                      • 48

                      Originally posted by ZombieKiller
                      Well it can be....if you like close living quarters and a loving room mate.
                      But you will get a free bed and meals
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                      • #12
                        Lateralus
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                        • Sep 2006
                        • 2041

                        Originally posted by Ducman
                        EEEEHHHHHH !! FAIL !!, You can put a 16' upper on a Pistol and later change it back to shorter barrel just make sure you take off the stock first!
                        I am almost positive that is untrue. Remember, you are dealing with Cali law AND federal law. Arfcom may have a very different view on the situation.

                        IANAL, and I do expect more of the more legal minded folk to chime in. Im more of a legal parrot; I just spew back Gene and Bills old memos.
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                        • #13
                          munkeeboi
                          Veteran Member
                          • May 2008
                          • 4925

                          I re-posted the BATFE letter on page one that is pretty direct on where they stand on this issue


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                          • #14
                            gn3hz3ku1*
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                            • Jul 2006
                            • 4276

                            you can.. if you move out of state

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                            • #15
                              ZombieKiller
                              Veteran Member
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 2555

                              There is no law regulating how long pistol barrels can be, ya?
                              "The bitterness of poor quality is remembered long after the sweetness of low price has faded from memory...."

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