5.45x39

[Jarhead]

Anyone reloading, where you getting your Data?
Results?
Before you move I tried the Reloading Site first but no one familiar with this fairly new to reloading round.
Was always cheaper to buy Loaded Ammo but those days are in the rear view mirror.

[Bigtwin]

I've never even seen reloading Data for that caliber. Nor have I seen dies.
I'm not saying it doesn't exist, I just never have come across it.

[Jarhead]

I have Dies, Bullets, waiting on Brass...........but yes, I doubt there are too many of us

[morrcarr67]

Maybe someone who reloads and reads the reloading section might have some info for you.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/forumdisplay.php?f=89

[JR18]

Try this link and the AKfikes.

https://www.theakforum.net/threads/5-45x39-load-data-use-at-your-own-risk.54684/

[Jarhead]

Try this link and the AKfikes.
https://www.theakforum.net/threads/5...wn-risk.54684/

Yes, a lot of that is old data when they were creating the Brass from .222 Remington and sizing .224 bullets to .221.

[Jarhead]

Looks like data coming out with Hornady 11th Edition, they claim they have nothing today.

[ar15barrels]

Looks like data coming out with Hornady 11th Edition, they claim they have nothing today.

If you have a specific bullet and case capacity from a fired case in your rifle, I can run a quickload simulation to get you started choosing powders.

Here is the standard Quickload 5.45x39 model with a 60gr hornady flatbase vmax that I created to run a powder chooser simulation:

Cartridge          : 5.45 x 39 mm (.215 Russ.)
Bullet             : .2215, 60, Hornady V-MAX FB 2207
Useable Case Capaci: 24.657 grain H2O = 1.601 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.200 inch = 55.88 mm
Barrel Length      : 16.0 inch = 406.4 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 55000 psi, or 379 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 100 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

51 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
Winchester 748                      99.7     24.4     1.58    2871    95.0    55000   11464   0.809  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H322                       100.0     22.1     1.43    2841    97.8    54560   10861   0.813  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H335                        94.5     23.4     1.52    2839    96.8    55000   11014   0.815  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
SNPE Vectan SP 10                   94.0     22.8     1.48    2836    96.8    55000   10993   0.819  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-10x                 97.6     20.9     1.36    2829    99.7    55000   10467   0.826  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N530                     99.9     22.8     1.48    2824    94.1    55000   10996   0.817  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon CFE223                     100.0     25.3     1.64    2815    91.4    52275   11422   0.828  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 200                           93.7     20.8     1.35    2812    99.9    55000   10268   0.840  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 2460                       97.7     23.9     1.55    2811    95.1    55000   10876   0.834  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-12                  99.6     23.1     1.50    2809    97.8    55000   10516   0.817  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4198                            96.4     19.7     1.27    2799   100.0    55000    9725   0.808  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 2015                      100.0     21.7     1.41    2798    99.2    54174   10327   0.837  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant AR-Comp                    100.0     22.0     1.42    2794    99.8    48688   10616   0.853  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2230                       97.0     23.9     1.55    2790    93.1    55000   10646   0.827  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon BL-C2                      100.0     24.8     1.61    2785    92.4    50606   11282   0.848  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2200                       91.7     21.1     1.37    2785    96.1    55000   10326   0.818  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-7                   91.1     20.0     1.30    2778    99.9    55000    9789   0.828  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Ramshot X-Terminator                98.4     23.9     1.55    2778    91.9    55000   10613   0.823  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N130                     99.9     21.2     1.38    2774    99.6    55000    9818   0.825  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Ramshot Wild Boar                  100.0     24.3     1.57    2770    90.7    51370   10977   0.840  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Benchmark                  100.0     22.4     1.45    2768    94.7    54534   10351   0.825  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 2520                      100.0     24.0     1.55    2764    94.6    49496   11030   0.865  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4198                       92.7     19.8     1.28    2759    97.7    55000    9760   0.813  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Here are some starting loads to compare against the max loads above:

Cartridge          : 5.45 x 39 mm (.215 Russ.)
Bullet             : .2215, 60, Hornady V-MAX FB 2207
Useable Case Capaci: 24.657 grain H2O = 1.601 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.200 inch = 55.88 mm
Barrel Length      : 16.0 inch = 406.4 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 40000 psi, or 275 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 100 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

58 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 85%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
Alliant AR-Comp                     93.9     20.7     1.34    2623    98.6    40000   10182   0.935
IMR 3031                            98.7     21.0     1.36    2621    94.7    40000   10513   0.936
Accurate 2495                       96.4     21.4     1.39    2601    95.8    40000   10639   0.981
Winchester 748                      90.4     22.1     1.43    2578    89.6    40000   10237   0.938
Accurate 2520                       94.0     22.5     1.46    2575    91.1    40000   10283   0.956
Hodgdon BL-C2                       93.4     23.2     1.50    2572    88.1    40000   10340   0.945
IMR 4895                            97.4     22.1     1.43    2570    86.3    40000   10338   0.947
Hodgdon CFE223                      92.3     23.4     1.51    2565    86.1    40000   10272   0.939
Hodgdon H322                        90.3     19.9     1.29    2565    93.7    40000    9810   0.938
Norma 203B                          98.7     22.4     1.45    2560    86.2    40000   10205   0.948
Hodgdon H335                        85.4     21.2     1.37    2556    92.3    40000    9887   0.944
Norma 202                           94.9     21.2     1.38    2555    92.3    40000    9932   0.951
Ramshot Big Game                    97.8     23.7     1.53    2553    84.9    40000   10152   0.939
Alliant Reloder-15                  98.0     22.3     1.44    2553    85.2    40000   10136   0.949
Vihtavuori N540                     97.3     22.4     1.45    2551    92.1    40000    9948   0.948
Alliant Reloder-10x                 87.3     18.7     1.21    2550    97.2    40000    9584   0.959
Hodgdon H4895                       93.8     21.3     1.38    2547    87.2    40000   10029   0.952
Ramshot Wild Boar                   92.5     22.5     1.46    2541    86.0    40000    9921   0.944
Vihtavuori N140                     97.1     21.6     1.40    2541    92.9    40000    9635   0.945
Accurate 2015                       90.4     19.7     1.27    2536    96.3    40000    9500   0.965

[Jarhead]

Why am I not surprised that Randall is a better source than Hornady
Thanks that’s the “ back up “ I was looking for, I’m using Hornady 60 Grain V-Max #2207 bullets with Hornady Brass.

[ar15barrels]

Why am I not surprised that Randall is a better source than Hornady
Thanks that’s the “ back up “ I was looking for, I’m using Hornady 60 Grain V-Max #2207 bullets with Hornady Brass.

It's NOT tested data.
It's just a computer simulation that relies on a bunch of assumptions that we don't know to be correct for YOUR gun/ammo.
That's why I ran two different passes at different pressure levels.
Starting at the lower loads would most likely be safe and then when you start looking at velocities, you will be able to better tell where you are on pressure.

Hornady's provided data in the manual will be actual tested data in a very specific gun and components which ALSO might not match YOUR gun.
That's why they also provide starting loads.

[Jarhead]

Understand, I always start at the lower levels and build up when developing loads.