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  • Clickjack
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2019
    • 515

    2nd upper for dmr

  • #2
    sigstroker
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jan 2009
    • 19112

    If you're going to use it for precision shooting get a 20" or 24".

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    • #3
      hunterb
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      CGN Contributor
      • Jun 2011
      • 3794

      Whatever you get, don’t cheap out on the barrel.

      Best AR barrels IMO:
      Bartlein
      Krieger
      Lilja
      Douglas
      White Oak Armory
      Criterion
      JP precision engineering
      Ballistic Advantage
      Noveske
      Larue
      Rainer Ultra Match

      Best bolt:
      JP high pressure

      18” is fine, 20” is a bit better.
      Last edited by hunterb; 07-13-2020, 1:31 PM. Reason: forgot Lilja
      Originally posted by johnthomas
      ...The hardest part getting rid of crap is getting started.

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      • #4
        smoothy8500
        Veteran Member
        • Sep 2009
        • 3834

        Can't go wrong with any of White Oak's offerings:

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        • #5
          Ki6vsm
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2013
          • 2351

          I agree with the others. If thinking of 18", may as well go 20".

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          • #6
            sfvshooter
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2016
            • 1196

            I have a FN DMR which is 18". I shoot MK 262. About 0.75-1 MOA. It's the only AR I have that's greater than 16" (all others are either 10.5", 14.5" or 16")

            Personally, unless it's for plinking, I don't see why you'd want an AR over 18". If you need to reach out to 400+ yards, get an AR 10 in 308/6.5CM or better yet, a bolt action in 6.5.
            Too many rifles, not enough time...

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            • #7
              alpha_romeo_XV
              Veteran Member
              • Jun 2006
              • 2873

              You can get a nice WOA 20" barrel with a crowned muzzle and equal the same length as a 18" with a brake. Hbar and freefloat for best rapid fire accuracy - don't want your shot group to walk off the point of impact as the barrel heats up.

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              • #8
                Paperchasin
                YOU are next!!
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Oct 2010
                • 6407

                I would personally get an 18" barrel with a nice 2-10x scope.
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                • #9
                  DrewTheBrave
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2011
                  • 1472

                  A longer barrel will give you more velocity, not necessarily accuracy. The quality & consistency of the barrel manufacturing process will affect accuracy, and the barrels recommended above are all great options. For the most part, you get what you pay for, with Kreiger, Bartlein and Lilja being among the best and most costly. In the next tier down, White Oak is probably the best value, but all options listed are worth your money.

                  If you're looking to extend performance beyond your 14.5", an 18" or 20" barrel would give you a little more capability at range. With that said, it might be worth considering another caliber like 6.5 Grendel or the new 6mm ARC to gain significant performance at ranges of 600-1000 yards. It really depends what your goals are, and if a new caliber is something you'd consider.

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                  WTB: Beretta 92/M9 series (non-railed), Remington 1100 LT-20,

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                  • #10
                    alpha_romeo_XV
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jun 2006
                    • 2873

                    Do you reload? A huge factor for long range accuracy is shooting match grade ammo - either make it or pay a lot for it.

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                    • #11
                      Clickjack
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2019
                      • 515

                      Originally posted by DrewTheBrave
                      With that said, it might be worth considering another caliber like 6.5 Grendel or the new 6mm ARC to gain significant performance at ranges of 600-1000 yards. It really depends what your goals are, and if a new caliber is something you'd consider.
                      Originally posted by alpha_romeo_XV
                      Do you reload? A huge factor for long range accuracy is shooting match grade ammo - either make it or pay a lot for it.

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                      • #12
                        DrewTheBrave
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2011
                        • 1472

                        Quality match grade ammo for 5.56 costs similar to match grade ammo for other calibers, so the difference in ammo costs will be minimal between most AR15 calibers.

                        I have an 11.5", 16" and 18" 5.56, but for long range fun I almost exclusively grab my 6.5 Grendel. Just last week I was smacking steel plates at 400, 500 and 600 yards in gusty conditions with 6.5G Hornady American Gunner ($0.75 per round). With that type of wind, it would have been a challenge for my 5.56 rifles.
                        My point being: if you're serious about long range shooting with an AR15, define what your goals are, and your decision will become much easier.

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                        WTB: Beretta 92/M9 series (non-railed), Remington 1100 LT-20,

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                        • #13
                          Clickjack
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2019
                          • 515

                          Originally posted by DrewTheBrave
                          Quality match grade ammo for 5.56 costs similar to match grade ammo for other calibers, so the difference in ammo costs will be minimal between most AR15 calibers.

                          I have an 11.5", 16" and 18" 5.56, but for long range fun I almost exclusively grab my 6.5 Grendel. Just last week I was smacking steel plates at 400, 500 and 600 yards in gusty conditions with 6.5G Hornady American Gunner ($0.75 per round). With that type of wind, it would have been a challenge for my 5.56 rifles.
                          My point being: if you're serious about long range shooting with an AR15, define what your goals are, and your decision will become much easier.

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                          What are you using the different length barrels for? I have an 11.5 & the 14.5

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                          • #14
                            sfvshooter
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2016
                            • 1196

                            And people don't really use 5.56 for "precision long range shooting." 77 gr match ammo will get you better results than M193 for typical 1:7 barrels, but otherwise, if you want to get into "precision long range shooting" try other calibers such as 308, 6.5CM, etc.

                            And if you're limited to getting an upper for an existing AR 15 lower, your options are 6.5 grendel, 224 valkyrie (though I might be the only one still shooting it), and 6mm ARC (brand new so who knows if it'll stick). These will allow you to shoot out to 1,000 yards.
                            Too many rifles, not enough time...

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                            • #15
                              smoothy8500
                              Veteran Member
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 3834

                              Then again, what is "longer range precision" to most calgunners? Anything past 100yds at the range? A decent barrel 18/20" with good 77gr projectiles will let you brag about "banging steel" all day at 600yds.

                              Bump it up to 80gr reloads and you'll do 800yds no problem.
                              Last edited by smoothy8500; 07-13-2020, 3:54 PM.

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