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  • #31
    m16
    Veteran Member
    • Aug 2010
    • 2527

    Wow this Hoback dude is

    He’s literally blowing up my inbox, talk about psychotic.

    I’m actually using the ignore feature for the first time ever.
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    • #32
      m16
      Veteran Member
      • Aug 2010
      • 2527

      Originally posted by SloChicken
      Nonetheless, 6061 is a fine material for all aluminum parts on an AR.

      Billet 6061 parts are alo forged into a billet, and then machined into the final shape.


      The 7075s are forged into their final shape, and minimal machining is done, this makes the finer aspects of machining difficult, which is why one sees most of the more complex billet machined lowers done out of 6061.
      Without failures I might add.
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      • #33
        The War Wagon
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Apr 2011
        • 10294

        I've OWNED LaRue mounts (and other gear). It may not be the cheapest, but their feces is AMALGAMATED, and their gear GTG.
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        • #34
          crufflers
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jul 2011
          • 12723

          I liked this scene better when it was in Good Will Hunting.

          I feel bad because I don't know the difference between 6061 and 5160.

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          • #35
            damon1272
            Veteran Member
            • Aug 2006
            • 4857

            I own both products. If they are the same or near price then buy the Larue. Making marks in the receiver is an adjustment issue not a design issue. Warne looks better but both are or high quality.

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            • #36
              crufflers
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jul 2011
              • 12723

              Originally posted by Dave Hoback
              That one isn't the same as any of my Warne Xskel mounts... kind of similar but not the same. Warne must be lying all over the packaging and on the web site because the Xskel has made in the USA and made in Tualatin, OR USA on front and back of the packaging... I have a brand new one in hand here. Yeah I trust TEAM WARNE over weird Amazon mounts with internet recommends - I have had a few and dumped them after using them especially QD ones. I'd shell out for BOBRO.

              The AR STONER and BROWNELLS mounts are completely different too. I have some Redfield SPR mounts that i got for $10 on clearance just to have around... not afraid of Chinese stuff with a name brand on it, but you can see the difference in quality before you even mount them.

              Personally I'd try a Brownells because I trust them. But as with many things there is no guarantee they are going to be as good as a $100 or $400 mount.

              I'd be wary of that $35 FiDRAGON QD system... interested in checking it out but not enough to order it and risk my $37. Chineseesy sounding brand names don't usually inspire confidence, so no one should be offended if everyone assumes they suck.

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              • #37
                crufflers
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jul 2011
                • 12723

                Prove it. Can you please prove Aero doesn't make their mounts too? Thanks in advance!

                Let us know how unreal that FiDragoony is after you shoot it and do the return to zero tests, etc.

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                • #38
                  crufflers
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 12723

                  Is Fidragon the brand or is IORMAN the brand? I bet IORMAN and IOR-Valdada are similar. I see Fidragon makes lots of other airsoft type products. Here is a nice scope to go in that mount:



                  It does come with two free mounts which makes it an even better deal. It doesn't say whether they are 7075 or pot metal though.

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                  • #39
                    broadside
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2016
                    • 1504

                    I really like my GG&G QD mounts.

                    They are a little more expensive but they have been great so far and come back to zero when remounting really well. Easily good enough for a tactical or 3-gun rifle with a LPVO

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                    • #40
                      m16
                      Veteran Member
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 2527

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                      • #41
                        SloChicken
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jul 2012
                        • 4533

                        Originally posted by Dave Hoback
                        Are you going to plagiarize the entire article you took that from(yeah, I’ve read as well), or just that excerpt? I can find the author if you like?

                        And once again, no.. what I said was fact. The ONLY time 6061 is preferred is for welding. (See, that is what an original wording looks like. Not plagiarized.)
                        Alright simple.

                        Plagarizing is when one does not cite the source.

                        See the link at the bottom of the text.
                        I could have told you the same, but then without good evidence I would be like you. Blathering on without any supporting evidence.

                        I think you have way too much ego hanging on this bud.
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                        Originally Posted by Cali-Shooter
                        To me, it was a fist-fight, except that I did not counter-attack.

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                        • #42
                          SloChicken
                          Veteran Member
                          • Jul 2012
                          • 4533

                          Lol

                          Oh good grief
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                          Originally Posted by Cali-Shooter
                          To me, it was a fist-fight, except that I did not counter-attack.

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                          • #43
                            crufflers
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Jul 2011
                            • 12723

                            Originally posted by SloChicken
                            Alright simple.

                            Plagarizing is when one does not cite the source.

                            See the link at the bottom of the text.
                            I could have told you the same, but then without good evidence I would be like you. Blathering on without any supporting evidence.

                            I think you have way too much ego hanging on this bud.
                            Yeah, you did post the link and he quoted it.

                            7075 costs 25% more and that FiDragoony mount still only costs $37 so obviously the machining is spot on and it is for sure legit 7075 with a world class finish. A lot of their other stuff costs $20.

                            Sometimes being a metallurgist pays off.

                            I think I have said it before, but all the characters around here make it more interesting. Try to see both sides, Dave. You can't post an informational review and already come off as sarcastic, defensive, and superior in the same informational post. I mean, ya can, but it will end up like this. Yeah, the mount has recoil lugs... that's great, but put it through some paces and maybe tell us why they can sell it for $37 if it is world class unbelievable quality.

                            Those mounts that were supposedly Warne mounts, weren't.

                            I use import mounts sometimes. I have UTG MRO/RMR risers, etc... "Tactical" rings... have some of those SWFA SSALT mounts I probably got for $25, etc... I'd rather shell out for Warnes.

                            I do miss that Socalenthusiast guy, hahah. No threads like those threads IMHO.
                            Last edited by crufflers; 05-21-2020, 1:44 PM.

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                            • #44
                              crufflers
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Jul 2011
                              • 12723

                              OK, here is my opinion on the Fidragon mount after researching a bit.

                              It is not 7075. Best case scenario it is 6061. Worst case, it is Chinese mystery metal. The specs are a knock-off just like the design is a knock-off of a Geissele mount. Supposedly a decent copy, but not 7075 like the Geissele.



                              I'm no metallurgist, but that's my opinion.

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                              • #45
                                ScottsBad
                                Progressives Suck!
                                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                                • May 2009
                                • 5610

                                Originally posted by m16
                                I am not a fan of Larue mounts.

                                The way the levers “cam” onto the receiver can make a dent in the aluminum.

                                Out of those two, I’d go with the Warne especially if you don’t care about having a QD mount.

                                It looks like a good mount for the price.
                                If you adjust them properly they don't. You have to crank them to get actual damage. All they usually do on 7075 is mar the anodizing if too tight.

                                If a mark on the underside dovetail on the rail bothers you, you should probably give up firearm sports for baking cookies.


                                OP, I would go La Rue any day over Warn, if those are your only two options. But there are lots of really good mounts out there these days. My only complaint with La Rue is the way the rings mount in pieces to the body of the mount. I've found it to be kind of clumsy. Once the scope is mounted in the LaRue they are rock solid. And its not like you have to re-mount a scope often.


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                                Last edited by ScottsBad; 05-23-2020, 12:31 PM.
                                sigpicC'mon man, shouldn't we ban Democracks from Cal-Guns? Or at least send them to re-education camps.

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