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  • #31
    nedro
    Veteran Member
    • Nov 2014
    • 4130

    Does ANY of this make a Pistol Grip AR, CA Legal?

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    • #32
      KevinBearFlag
      Junior Member
      CGN Contributor
      • Jun 2017
      • 91

      Originally posted by nedro
      Does ANY of this make a Pistol Grip AR, CA Legal?
      Locking your magazine makes your pistol grip legal. Our product just makes loading that magazine easier and faster.
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      Kevin
      Bear Flag Defense
      http://www.bearflagdefense.com

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      • #33
        Whiterabbit
        Calguns Addict
        • Oct 2010
        • 7578

        Originally posted by KevinBearFlag
        Not quite, and that will depend on your definition of "success" which might be completely different than ours.

        Also, loading magazines through ejection ports is not our only trick, as you'll soon find out.

        Cheers!
        I hear that. I always figured a PS90 magazine could be modified to be top loading, with a loading port and a finger grip you could pull back to manually drag back the follower, and insert ctgs without removing the mag.

        I also figured such a product would have a user base of <500 interested users, and never likely to happen in my lifetime.

        Seems like lots of ways to skin the cat.

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        • #34
          mshill
          Veteran Member
          • Dec 2012
          • 4416

          Originally posted by nedro
          Does ANY of this make a Pistol Grip AR, CA Legal?
          Not but this http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1366673 will allow you to keep all your features and functionality (except of course your standard magazine release) while in CA.
          The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money.

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          • #35
            9M62
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2011
            • 1519

            Yup, pre-ordered as well. I have the MA Loader and quite honestly, don't like it much.

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            • #36
              nedro
              Veteran Member
              • Nov 2014
              • 4130

              Originally posted by KevinBearFlag
              Yes, pre-orders ship in November. I'm putting together something right now to "sweeten the deal" for everyone who pre-orders. This will be retroactive to everyone who already did as well.

              Make sure you join our mailing list. We don't spam- our newsletter is about every two weeks.
              Are the DFM mags special in some way?
              Do I need them to use the loader?

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              • #37
                LowThudd
                Veteran Member
                • Dec 2011
                • 3608

                Originally posted by nedro
                Are the DFM mags special in some way?
                Do I need them to use the loader?
                The DFM mage are ONE fixed magazine option. They are installed from the top of the lower receiver and cannot be removed without opening the action.

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                • #38
                  KevinBearFlag
                  Junior Member
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Jun 2017
                  • 91

                  Originally posted by nedro
                  Are the DFM mags special in some way?
                  Do I need them to use the loader?
                  No, any fixed mag will work with our product. DFM is just an option. We also recommend the Cross Armory Safe Mag, Cross Armory AR Fixed Mag, and the Hogue Freedom Fighter. Those are what we use on our personal rifles and they all work great.
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                  Bear Flag Defense
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                  • #39
                    gunsnrovers
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 1672

                    Lol. Fun post. Let's compare a product that has only just been received in any quantity vs a product that isn't even in production yet.

                    Let's have this conversation next March.
                    - Jeff
                    كافر - Infidel
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                    • #40
                      nedro
                      Veteran Member
                      • Nov 2014
                      • 4130

                      Originally posted by gunsnrovers
                      Lol. Fun post. Let's compare a product that has only just been received in any quantity vs a product that isn't even in production yet.

                      Let's have this conversation next March.
                      Unfortunately, that would be too late.

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                      • #41
                        nedro
                        Veteran Member
                        • Nov 2014
                        • 4130

                        Originally posted by KevinBearFlag
                        No, any fixed mag will work with our product. DFM is just an option. We also recommend the Cross Armory Safe Mag, Cross Armory AR Fixed Mag, and the Hogue Freedom Fighter. Those are what we use on our personal rifles and they all work great.
                        I'm getting ready to pre-order, so I have another question (sorry guys).

                        So with this year's new regulations:
                        I can install a fixed mag (10 rounds) and keep everything the same as before without it being an Assault Weapon in the eyes of the CADOJ.
                        That would include a colapsing stock and Pistol grip.
                        Still no flash hider but comp OK with a 30" minimum configuration.

                        Am I missing anything?
                        Thanks.

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                        • #42
                          LowThudd
                          Veteran Member
                          • Dec 2011
                          • 3608

                          Originally posted by nedro
                          I'm getting ready to pre-order, so I have another question (sorry guys).

                          So with this year's new regulations:
                          I can install a fixed mag (10 rounds) and keep everything the same as before without it being an Assault Weapon in the eyes of the CADOJ.
                          That would include a colapsing stock and Pistol grip.
                          Still no flash hider but comp OK with a 30" minimum configuration.

                          Am I missing anything?
                          Thanks.
                          Yes, everything else is fine with a fixed mag.

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                          • #43
                            mike.h
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 1589

                            todays dumb question, once it has a fixed magazine, do I have to do anything to the bullet button?

                            thanks in advance
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                            SEA '69-70
                            NRA Life Member

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                            • #44
                              Laurence927
                              Member
                              • Feb 2017
                              • 181

                              Originally posted by mike.h
                              todays dumb question, once it has a fixed magazine, do I have to do anything to the bullet button?

                              thanks in advance
                              I would think you can just leave it on as long as it doesn't drop the magazine when the firearm is not "disassembled".

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                              • #45
                                nedro
                                Veteran Member
                                • Nov 2014
                                • 4130

                                Originally posted by LowThudd
                                Yes, everything else is fine with a fixed mag.
                                Thanks!

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