How to legally sell magazines before the deadline?

[Press Check]

In 6 months we'll start seeing threads about how to sell off our assault weapons before that ban takes effect.

If I had any LCMs, I would do whatever it takes to not lose them, even if I didn't have a gun that used them anymore. Block them, convert them, store them out of state, whatever. Selling them on the internet would be at the bottom of the list. Dunno, maybe OP has a garage full of them and won't miss them if he only sells a few (but the tone of his post does make it sound like he wants to get rid of them all for some reason)

I guess they'll be doing house to house checks then, right? I mean, that's the only reason I can think of regarding why anyone would sell a LCM, or turn them over to local PD.

[CandG]

I guess they'll be doing house to house checks then, right? I mean, that's the only reason I can think of regarding why anyone would sell a LCM, or turn them over to local PD.

That's pretty much what I meant, the only logical reason to sell LCM's if you live in CA is if you're burdened with so many of them that you could never possibly use them all, and need the money. Otherwise, I'm generally opposed to selling anything that I'll never be able to get back. And of course turning them in for free would be completely out of the question.

I've never sold a single gun or magazine in my life, because I'm afraid that future laws will change and I'll regret not having them. I've only sold ammo twice, and regretted it shortly after - I won't even sell that anymore.

[M14 Junkie]

I guess they'll be doing house to house checks then, right? I mean, that's the only reason I can think of regarding why anyone would sell a LCM, or turn them over to local PD.

There's another reason people choose to follow the new laws. It's the risk of getting accidentally caught with LCM's or unregistered weapons.

No, they are most likely not going to do house to house searches. But, the way both the state and fed. governments, are twisting these days, you cannot be 100% sure of that any more.

How many people ever thought that they would start cross-checking previously legal gun owners who were then subsequently charged with domestic violence charges (not convicted, just charged) and then going out to their residences to confiscate guns? I'm all for that but, did you ever think that they would go there?

Ca. is willing to devote resources to weapons laws enforcement.

There is a real risk for discovery by accident. A fire at your house, a burglary, some emergency, any number of possible scenarios exist.

You transport the stuff in your car, run through it yourself, you can be discovered by unintended/accidental circumstances that are beyond your control.

A lot of people are not willing to risk possibly everything by not complying. If I lived in Ca., I would not be.

Because however small the risk of getting caught with it is, it's way too much risk versus the consequences for me.

[xxINKxx]

[sigstroker]

ATF couldn't care less.

[FNH5-7]

Change that hat to CA DOJ.

[Press Check]

There's another reason people choose to follow the new laws. It's the risk of getting accidentally caught with LCM's or unregistered weapons.

No, they are most likely not going to do house to house searches. But, the way both the state and fed. governments, are twisting these days, you cannot be 100% sure of that any more.

How many people ever thought that they would start cross-checking previously legal gun owners who were then subsequently charged with domestic violence charges (not convicted, just charged) and then going out to their residences to confiscate guns? I'm all for that but, did you ever think that they would go there?

Ca. is willing to devote resources to weapons laws enforcement.

There is a real risk for discovery by accident. A fire at your house, a burglary, some emergency, any number of possible scenarios exist.

You transport the stuff in your car, run through it yourself, you can be discovered by unintended/accidental circumstances that are beyond your control.

A lot of people are not willing to risk possibly everything by not complying. If I lived in Ca., I would not be.

Because however small the risk of getting caught with it is, it's way too much risk versus the consequences for me.

The new law is nothing short of de facto confiscation, and unconstitutional. Surrendering private property without due process or compensation is protected under the 14th amendment, and your commentary is not something I would expect from someone in a free state.

Remember the magazine ban that passed in Sunnyvale a few years ago under the guise of public safety? Not a single magazine was turned in by the deadline. Sunnyvale residents outright refused, and rightly so. Years later, no one I am aware of has been arrested or cited solely for possession of a LCM.

Fortunately, you are part of the minority.

To defeat tyranny, you do not need an army. You only need noncompliance from its citizens.

[billt]

People are fed up with this kind of crap. New York has a large non compliance with Cuomo's "Safe Act". Fewer than 45,000 guns registered out of over 1.2 MILLION.

http://www.guns.com/2015/06/23/low-safe-act-numbers-hint-at-non-compliance-in-new-york/

"Records released show that 23,847 people have applied to register 44,485 guns classified as an assault weapon under the egis of the Secure Ammunition Firearms Enforcement Act implemented two years ago. At the time of implementation, it was estimated that as many as 1.2 million guns in the Empire State would have been subject to registration."

[M14 Junkie]

The new law is nothing short of de facto confiscation, and unconstitutional. Surrendering private property without due process or compensation is protected under the 14th amendment, and your commentary is not something I would expect from someone in a free state.

Remember the magazine ban that passed in Sunnyvale a few years ago under the guise of public safety? Not a single magazine was turned in by the deadline. Sunnyvale residents outright refused, and rightly so. Years later, no one I am aware of has been arrested or cited solely for possession of a LCM.

Fortunately, you are part of the minority.

To defeat tyranny, you do not need an army. You only need noncompliance from its citizens.

To be clear, I agree with you 100% on the law being unconstitutional. My "commentary" as you put it is merely my opinion on WHY some people will choose to comply.

You're surprised to read what I posted because I'm in a free state? It has nothing to do with which state a person resides.

It has to do with personal choice. Which is more valuable to me and my family? Keeping some magazines and/or an unregistered AW and possibly ruining my life for it?
Or complying with their laws; registering AW's and possessing 10 round magazines only?

My personal choice would be to comply because as I stated, it's not worth the risk compared to the consequences for me.

I would not put everything in my life at risk for some magazines or possessing an unregistered AW.

I respect your choice as you should respect mine and others like me.

Not complying may make you feel good but, it's not going to change anything, is it?

They don't care if you comply. The law is there so they can punish you if you're caught. They're not going to cry if there is non compliance, they'll just wait to catch people and then burn them.

[Press Check]

Hmm, I thought this thread was about LCM's, not AW's.

That said, a misdemeanor infraction and a $100 fine for possession of an LCM hardly falls into the category of a life being ruined. Hell, third and subsequent infractions is a $500 fine.

Good grief, LOL.

[Montu]

I'll pay postage for any pmags anyone wants to get rid of...

Pm for details :-)

[M14 Junkie]

Hmm, I thought this thread was about LCM's, not AW's.

That said, a misdemeanor infraction and a $100 fine for possession of an LCM hardly falls into the category of a life being ruined. Hell, third and subsequent infractions is a $500 fine.

Good grief, LOL.

There was some discussion in other threads on this board about the fines, etc. for possession of LCM's, and it seems that the fines are compounded for each additional magazines so, several magazines could end up costing you a few thousand dollars.

The discussions about registering AW's goes hand in hand with the LCM ban, that's why I included them in my post. Some people will, others will not.

In any case, being convicted of a misdemeanor crime is nothing to laugh at, it's serious. Possession of an unregistered AW is a felony crime.

Among other things, misdemeanor convictions can make it impossible to be hired in many fields of employment these days. Much more than 40 years ago.

So, all laughing aside, will you be seen at the local ranges with your LCM's after the ban?

[Cokebottle]

^^^^^ This.

If you are planning your own personal "Calexit" and have realistic expectations of implementing the plan within the next 24 months (IOTW: You are well on your way to having your affairs in order to make the move pending employment) then fine... keep your mags, don't register your AWs, enjoy life in a free state.

OTOH, if you're stuck here, or don't have anything more solid than "I really want to move out", then your options are to comply, or stash everything in the back of the safe and never shoot it.

[-hanko]

Is this thread topic real? I mean, he's just yanking our chain, right?

He was serious about selling the mags, I was serious about purchasing them. The mags are bought and paid for. All I need o do is to find some time to pick them up.

No legal worries and no need to get your California panties in a bunch, the state of Idaho doesn't care about mag capacity.

[Press Check]

No legal worries and no need to get your California panties in a bunch, the state of Idaho doesn't care about mag capacity.

Compliance with unconstitutional law is the issue. Personally, I could care less about whatever you're doing.