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  • #31
    Exdc
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2011
    • 893

    Originally posted by Librarian
    That's United Airlines.



    Can't say I object to their requirements, but CA law doesn't have the same thing.


    Are you saying that we can't check weapons in CA? As long as it's in a completely hard sided case with NON-TSA locks, I thought we were good to go? Just declare at the check in counter?


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    Radical Centerist (That's me) Philosophy:
    Originally posted by Unknown
    "I want gay married couples to be able to protect their marijuana plants with guns." -Unknown (possibly Tim Moen)
    Originally posted by Allhailflintlocks
    Gun owners need to be the new illegals - undocumented firearm possessors if you will.
    Legislator "logic":
    Originally posted by Dezrat
    Before long, the Feds via A.D.A. will probably require manufacturers to include Braille markings to accommodate blind shooters.....

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    • #32
      Exdc
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2011
      • 893

      Will this fly for a locking case to transport an AR-15?

      Originally posted by Exdc
      Are you saying that we can't check weapons in CA? As long as it's in a completely hard sided case with NON-TSA locks, I thought we were good to go? Just declare at the check in counter?


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      Originally posted by L84CABO
      Have you ever done any traveling before? Have you seen what the baggage monkeys do to luggage? Even if that case was acceptable by the airline would you really want to trust your firearm in it? And at least try to pick a case that doesn't scream "hey there's a gun in here come steal me!"


      Luggage monkeys can't get in because you aren't allowed to use TSA locks.

      Originally posted by blkside
      No one can fall for this troll or this is a challenge for the dumbest post ever. Most bags have a brass type ring on the closed end. A TSA lock through the zipper and the ring will suffice. The handles is stoopid... lol


      YOU CANNOT USE TSA LOCKS!

      I'm going to find the guidelines that I located for flying with firearms. It's really informative.

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      Last edited by Exdc; 02-14-2017, 9:42 PM.
      Radical Centerist (That's me) Philosophy:
      Originally posted by Unknown
      "I want gay married couples to be able to protect their marijuana plants with guns." -Unknown (possibly Tim Moen)
      Originally posted by Allhailflintlocks
      Gun owners need to be the new illegals - undocumented firearm possessors if you will.
      Legislator "logic":
      Originally posted by Dezrat
      Before long, the Feds via A.D.A. will probably require manufacturers to include Braille markings to accommodate blind shooters.....

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      • #33
        XD40Kyle
        Member
        • Jan 2010
        • 452

        I have a plano hard case that I got at big5 for 15 and I have a soft case that I got on midway, its even on sale for $18. the soft case can be locked at the zipper with a small lock, like you'd lock your luggage with

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        • #34
          Exdc
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2011
          • 893

          Will this fly for a locking case to transport an AR-15?

          Originally posted by XD40Kyle
          I have a plano hard case that I got at big5 for 15 and I have a soft case that I got on midway, its even on sale for $18. the soft case can be locked at the zipper with a small lock, like you'd lock your luggage with

          http://www.midwayusa.com/product/939...with-6-pockets
          You CANNOT check a firearm in any zippered bag. The case must be completely hard sided.

          Okay apparently we need more education on this. @Librarian, If I make a writeup, can it be stickied?


          Edit: here is where I got most of my information. Haven't flown with guns yet, but this is what the majority of other sources I found agree with, and covers almost all, if not all the bases.



          There is also a good video I'll look for again.

          Edit: Good video, but a different one...


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          Last edited by Exdc; 02-14-2017, 10:13 PM.
          Radical Centerist (That's me) Philosophy:
          Originally posted by Unknown
          "I want gay married couples to be able to protect their marijuana plants with guns." -Unknown (possibly Tim Moen)
          Originally posted by Allhailflintlocks
          Gun owners need to be the new illegals - undocumented firearm possessors if you will.
          Legislator "logic":
          Originally posted by Dezrat
          Before long, the Feds via A.D.A. will probably require manufacturers to include Braille markings to accommodate blind shooters.....

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          • #35
            Librarian
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            • Oct 2005
            • 44627

            Originally posted by Exdc
            Are you saying that we can't check weapons in CA? As long as it's in a completely hard sided case with NON-TSA locks, I thought we were good to go? Just declare at the check in counter?


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            Since the thread did not begin with airlines, I'm not talking about them at all.

            Someone posted (what seems to be) the United Airlines requirements. They're free to require whatever they find appropriate. California does not impose those requirements for general transport of long guns.
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            • #36
              Cokebottle
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              • Oct 2009
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              Originally posted by tradecraft
              Why is everyone talking about air transport?
              Because OP said "Will this fly"
              - Rich

              Originally posted by dantodd
              A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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              • #37
                XDJYo
                Calguns Addict
                • Apr 2012
                • 6155

                Originally posted by SonofWWIIDI
                Just don't let the agent at the next desk over catch you with it.
                Originally posted by Dark Hunt
                United accepts shooting equipment as checked baggage in hard-sided, securely locked firearms cases or containers. Locked cases that can easily be opened are not permitted. All firearms cases must meet the following safety criteria in order to be accepted for travel:
                Originally posted by jimbo74
                Are we talking air transport or raw?
                Originally posted by tradecraft
                Why is everyone talking about air transport?
                Originally posted by L84CABO
                Have you ever done any traveling before? Have you seen what the baggage monkeys do to luggage? Even if that case was acceptable by the airline would you really want to trust your firearm in it? And at least try to pick a case that doesn't scream "hey there's a gun in here come steal me!"
                Originally posted by CouchOperator
                Wtf did i just read
                Originally posted by Exdc
                Luggage monkeys can't get in because you aren't allowed to use TSA locks.

                YOU CANNOT USE TSA LOCKS!

                I'm going to find the guidelines that I located for flying with firearms. It's really informative.
                Originally posted by Exdc
                You CANNOT check a firearm in any zippered bag. The case must be completely hard sided.

                Okay apparently we need more education on this. @Librarian, If I make a writeup, can it be stickied?
                Originally posted by Librarian
                Since the thread did not begin with airlines, I'm not talking about them at all.

                Someone posted (what seems to be) the United Airlines requirements. They're free to require whatever they find appropriate. California does not impose those requirements for general transport of long guns.
                Originally posted by Cokebottle
                Because OP said "Will this fly"
                This thread has me LOL-ing!!!!
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                • #38
                  Exdc
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2011
                  • 893

                  Originally posted by Librarian
                  Since the thread did not begin with airlines, I'm not talking about them at all.

                  Someone posted (what seems to be) the United Airlines requirements. They're free to require whatever they find appropriate. California does not impose those requirements for general transport of long guns.


                  Got it. But basically if someone wants to fly with guns, they have to follow all the regulations. California/other state/destination, TSA, Federal, and airline. I think the information I posted covers most domestic flying.


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                  Radical Centerist (That's me) Philosophy:
                  Originally posted by Unknown
                  "I want gay married couples to be able to protect their marijuana plants with guns." -Unknown (possibly Tim Moen)
                  Originally posted by Allhailflintlocks
                  Gun owners need to be the new illegals - undocumented firearm possessors if you will.
                  Legislator "logic":
                  Originally posted by Dezrat
                  Before long, the Feds via A.D.A. will probably require manufacturers to include Braille markings to accommodate blind shooters.....

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                  • #39
                    tradecraft
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 4576

                    Originally posted by Cokebottle
                    Because OP said "Will this fly"
                    Sigh. lol
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                    • #40
                      Drew Eckhardt
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 1918

                      Originally posted by 000
                      they're like $125 and unwieldy
                      Hard cases start at $20 and a svelte four pounds barely bigger than one gun:



                      $70 gets you a beefy 14 pound baggage-handler resistant case.




                      I've squeezed a pair of rifles in mine, and the usual long gun plus pair of handguns fit great.

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                      Last edited by Drew Eckhardt; 02-15-2017, 6:50 AM.

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                      • #41
                        32blownhemi
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 502

                        Originally posted by SonofWWIIDI
                        Just don't let the agent at the next desk over catch you with it.

                        LMAO! good one!

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                        • #42
                          enorbit3
                          Veteran Member
                          • Oct 2011
                          • 2605

                          Originally posted by Sniper3142
                          FAIL.

                          Cable Locks thru the action of a firearm DO NOT meet the legal requirement for a LOCKED CONTAINER.

                          BTW, there are LOTS of Soft Cases that can be properly secured via the zippers.
                          Originally posted by Librarian
                          Well, since non-RAWs ordinarily need not be locked, that really isn't a problem ...

                          Enorbit3, you can use those things if you like, but as Sniper says, they have no legal application in legal gun transport. Those are a 'checkoff item' for an FFL, before he can deliver the gun. After that, paper weights.
                          Thank you both for clearing that up for me. It's appreciated!
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                          • #43
                            lone shooter
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                            • Dec 2014
                            • 2469

                            Originally posted by Librarian
                            Well, since non-RAWs ordinarily need not be locked, that really isn't a problem ...
                            Originally posted by Librarian
                            We don't hear about folks getting arrested for 'non secure cases', so it would seem that's a low-priority concern of LE.
                            I'll confess that I use the OP's technique to secure two shotguns for transport to the range.
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                            • #44
                              Cokebottle
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                              • Oct 2009
                              • 32373

                              Padlock through the zipper pulls and it's good to go.
                              The law does not require a hard-sided case... just a secure locking container.



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                              Originally posted by dantodd
                              A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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                              • #45
                                jimbo74
                                Veteran Member
                                • Mar 2014
                                • 2923

                                I have a similar case I got from my lgs for $8. It has 1 zipper, and a small nylon webbing loop near it. Even with a padlock, You could still get the gun out depending on how you manipulate the bag.
                                "It is currently CA legal to modify a double-action revolver into a single-action revolver and modify a single-action revolver into a double-action revolver.

                                CA DOJ BOF stance on modifying handguns only applies to dimensionally compliant bolt-action single-shot pistols and dimensionally compliant break-open single-shot pistols.
                                ^It does not apply to revolvers, manually operated repeating pistols, and semi-auto pistols." ~~ Quiet

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