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  • #16
    BigPimping
    CGN Contributor
    • Feb 2010
    • 21388

    Just get a hard case. Interesting early enough, a lot of the airlines sell them for very cheap. For good ones as well.
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    • #17
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      Dumb zip-tie joke deleted.
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      • #18
        ford63man
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        • Mar 2013
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        its a long gun. why does it have to have a lock on the soft case?
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        • #19
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          Originally posted by ford63man
          its a long gun. why does it have to have a lock on the soft case?
          If it uses a designed-for-guns case - as is the case OP posts - it doesn't. If the AR were to become a RAW, then it needs a lock.
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          • #20
            jimbo74
            Veteran Member
            • Mar 2014
            • 2923

            less than $20 and lockable

            "It is currently CA legal to modify a double-action revolver into a single-action revolver and modify a single-action revolver into a double-action revolver.

            CA DOJ BOF stance on modifying handguns only applies to dimensionally compliant bolt-action single-shot pistols and dimensionally compliant break-open single-shot pistols.
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            • #21
              Dark Hunt
              Member
              • Sep 2016
              • 420

              United accepts shooting equipment as checked baggage in hard-sided, securely locked firearms cases or containers. Locked cases that can easily be opened are not permitted. All firearms cases must meet the following safety criteria in order to be accepted for travel:

              Firearms will be accepted only from a customer who is 18 years of age or older.
              International firearm regulations and laws vary by destination and transiting country. Contact appropriate consulates or embassies to obtain specific entry requirements applicable to destination(s). United is not liable for any assistance or information relating to such regulations or compliance with such laws provided by any United employee or agent to any customers, or for the consequences to any customer resulting from his or her failure to comply with such regulations or laws.
              Firearms are not accepted to and from Bahrain, Cuba, Federated States of Micronesia, Israel, Marshall Islands, Nigeria, Palau, Philippines, Qatar, the United Arab Emirates and Vietnam.
              Customers traveling to Guatemala City, Guatemala (GUA) with checked firearms and/or ammunition must be in possession of a gun import license or a temporary transportation permit, which must be certified and validated by a Guatemalan Consulate. Customers traveling with checked firearms and/or ammunition through Guatemala City do not require a permit as long as their bag does not leave the airport controlled area. Customers must ensure they have all the necessary documents required at their final destination.
              Customers traveling to or through Milan, Italy (MXP) or Rome, Italy (FCO) with checked firearms/ammunition are subject to police clearance at their first point of entry into Italy. Security staff will take the firearms/ammunition to the police office for inspection. Firearms and ammunition must be packed in separate containers.
              Customers traveling to or through Amsterdam, Netherlands (AMS) with checked firearms/ammunition must obtain permission from the Netherlands Consulate/Embassy in their country of origin prior to departure. Weapons are subject to confiscation in Amsterdam unless the owner can show all required permits. Customers traveling on military orders with checked firearms may do so without prior consent from Dutch Customs. Checked military ammunition is forbidden.
              For travel to and from the United Kingdom, pistols, rifles and shotguns must be packed in a hard-sided rifle case. Customers must have the appropriate license or certificate in addition to a British Visitor's Permit (BVP). A Great Britain resident will need to act as a sponsor and submit a BVP application to their local firearms licensing department on your behalf.
              Curbside check-in of a firearm is not permitted.
              Firearms must be packed in a hard-sided container with a lock. The container must be locked at the time of acceptance by United Airlines and the key or combination must remain in the customer's possession. The container must completely secure the firearm from being accessed. Locked cases that can easily be opened will not be accepted for travel.
              Handguns must be packed in a hard-sided container with a lock. The container must be locked at the time of acceptance by United Airlines and the key or combination must remain in the customer’s possession. The locked hard-sized container holding the handgun may be placed inside an unlocked soft-side piece of luggage. The container must completely secure the firearm from being accessed. Locked cases that can easily be opened will not be accepted for travel.
              Customers may only pack up to five firearms in any case or bag. However, there is no limit on the number of cases or bags they are permitted to check.
              The firearm will be transported in a section of the aircraft that is inaccessible to the customer. Proof of registration is not required.
              Firearms carried in addition to the free baggage allowance will be assessed at the current excess baggage charge.
              No more than 11 pounds of ammunition may be carried.
              The ammunition may be packed in the same container as the firearm or in a separate container.
              The ammunition must be packed in the manufacturer's original package or securely packed in fiber, wood or metal containers.
              The ammunition inside the container must be protected against shock and secured against movement.
              Loaded ammunition magazines or clips must be removed from the firearm, and must be securely packed in boxes or other packaging specifically designed to carry small amounts of ammunition and must fit over any exposed ends of the magazine or clip.
              Ammunition with explosive or incendiary projectile will not be accepted.
              Black powder, for black powder arms, is considered hazardous material and will not be accepted as checked baggage.
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              • #22
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                Originally posted by Dark Hunt
                United accepts shooting equipment as checked baggage in hard-sided, securely locked firearms cases or containers. Locked cases that can easily be opened are not permitted. All firearms cases must meet the following safety criteria in order to be accepted for travel:
                ...
                That's United Airlines.

                Can't say I object to their requirements, but CA law doesn't have the same thing.
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                • #23
                  000
                  Banned
                  • Feb 2017
                  • 77

                  Originally posted by jimbo74
                  Doesn't solve the unwieldy issue...But for $20 it solves a problem.

                  I'll grab it...Thank you.

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                  • #24
                    Sniper3142
                    Veteran Member
                    • May 2004
                    • 2579

                    Originally posted by enorbit3
                    Wait, i use a soft double case to transport a 12gauge and ar. I don't lock the case but use a cable lock for each of the weapons. Is this sufficient or am I risking it?
                    FAIL.

                    Cable Locks thru the action of a firearm DO NOT meet the legal requirement for a LOCKED CONTAINER.

                    BTW, there are LOTS of Soft Cases that can be properly secured via the zippers.
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                    • #25
                      tradecraft
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                      • Jul 2008
                      • 4577

                      Why is everyone talking about air transport?
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                      • #26
                        ScottsBad
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                        • May 2009
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                        Of course not. LOL
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                        • #27
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                          Originally posted by enorbit3
                          Wait, i use a soft double case to transport a 12gauge and ar. I don't lock the case but use a cable lock for each of the weapons. Is this sufficient or am I risking it?
                          Originally posted by Sniper3142
                          FAIL.

                          Cable Locks thru the action of a firearm DO NOT meet the legal requirement for a LOCKED CONTAINER.

                          BTW, there are LOTS of Soft Cases that can be properly secured via the zippers.
                          Well, since non-RAWs ordinarily need not be locked, that really isn't a problem ...

                          Enorbit3, you can use those things if you like, but as Sniper says, they have no legal application in legal gun transport. Those are a 'checkoff item' for an FFL, before he can deliver the gun. After that, paper weights.
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                          • #28
                            L84CABO
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                            • Mar 2009
                            • 8541

                            Originally posted by 000



                            they're like $125 and unwieldy
                            Have you ever done any traveling before? Have you seen what the baggage monkeys do to luggage? Even if that case was acceptable by the airline would you really want to trust your firearm in it? And at least try to pick a case that doesn't scream "hey there's a gun in here come steal me!"
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                            • #29
                              CouchOperator
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                              • May 2016
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                              Wtf did i just read

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                              • #30
                                5gnut
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                                • Nov 2013
                                • 170

                                Depends on the LEO that has pulled you over,

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