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  • #16
    chayden
    Member
    • Jan 2012
    • 499

    Buy ammo like there's no tomorrow. dont wait, you'll regret it. Even if it's small purchases here and there.

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    • #17
      geoint
      Veteran Member
      • Feb 2014
      • 4385

      Originally posted by stix213
      The buying frenzy ended the last two weeks of December. Buyers are still recovering.
      Has nothing to do with it. IF some ban was about to go into effect in CA, they'd keep right on buying.


      The reason the market has completely died is (ironically enough) that Trump is in office and he is a firm defender of the 2A. With the looming threat of Obama/Hillary banning everything gone, nobody is freaking out about the supply drying up so nobody is motivated to go out and buy guns.

      Couple that with the amazing amount of over-saturation that has already taken place over the last few years and you aren't going to have a whole lot of demand in the market anymore.

      Besides hardcore gun nuts and the few libs who think Trump is gonna have death squads rounding them up soon, very few people are buying ARs.
      Unless we keep the barbarian virtues, gaining the civilized ones will be of little avail. Oversentimentality, oversoftness, washiness, and mushiness are the great dangers of this age and of this people." Teddy Roosevelt

      I Hate California.

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      • #18
        CandG
        Spent $299 for this text!
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Apr 2014
        • 16970

        Not a lot of people are excited about buying a featureless AR right now to add to their other 12 they bought last year.

        Also, the AR platform (now, in CA) just doesn't offer that much that other rifles can't do just as well or better. Why buy a Ferrari just to debadge it, detune it, run 87 octane gas in it, and put 14 inch hubcaps on the wheels, when you can buy a perfectly good Honda that was actually designed to be those things. There's mag-locked, but again, nobody is really excited about that.

        Also, as others mentioned, the firearms market as a whole is in a bit of a slump right now. Even unfired Glock 43s are fetching less than 50% over msrp here in CA, when not long ago they were over $1500. Ammo prices are probably lower right now than we'll ever see again. And you can even buy as much 22lr as you could ever want online for 6 or 7 cents a round.
        Last edited by CandG; 02-01-2017, 11:35 PM.
        Settle down, folks. The new "ghost gun" regulations probably don't do what you think they do.


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        • #19
          BigPimping
          CGN Contributor
          • Feb 2010
          • 21392

          Why would you sell something that might be very difficult to acquire again? Especially if you registered it before the 1st
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          • #20
            Angrysnarf
            Veteran Member
            • Oct 2015
            • 2857

            Originally posted by BigPimping
            Why would you sell something that might be very difficult to acquire again? Especially if you registered it before the 1st
            Trying to acquire a saiga or ak

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            • #21
              stix213
              AKA: Joe Censored
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Apr 2009
              • 18998

              Originally posted by geoint
              Has nothing to do with it. IF some ban was about to go into effect in CA, they'd keep right on buying.


              The reason the market has completely died is (ironically enough) that Trump is in office and he is a firm defender of the 2A. With the looming threat of Obama/Hillary banning everything gone, nobody is freaking out about the supply drying up so nobody is motivated to go out and buy guns.

              Couple that with the amazing amount of over-saturation that has already taken place over the last few years and you aren't going to have a whole lot of demand in the market anymore.

              Besides hardcore gun nuts and the few libs who think Trump is gonna have death squads rounding them up soon, very few people are buying ARs.
              Trump won in early November yet the buying frenzy peaked in mid December. It wasn't about national politics.

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              • #22
                tonyxcom
                Calguns Addict
                • Aug 2011
                • 6397

                Originally posted by stix213
                Trump won in early November yet the buying frenzy peaked in mid December. It wasn't about national politics.
                You aren't connecting all of the dots. There was a buying frenzy in California ONLY - because of the AW registration eligibility deadline.

                Now that that deadline has passed AND Trump is president, there is no urgency in CA, and the rest of the country.

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                • #23
                  CandG
                  Spent $299 for this text!
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Apr 2014
                  • 16970

                  Originally posted by tonyxcom
                  You aren't connecting all of the dots. There was a buying frenzy in California ONLY - because of the AW registration eligibility deadline.

                  Now that that deadline has passed AND Trump is president, there is no urgency in CA, and the rest of the country.
                  Yep, as evidenced by the fact that while local stores have had low inventory, online availability has been plentiful and cheap.

                  During the '13 panic, you couldn't even find anything online. I remember paying almost $600 for a set of 3 no-name 80% lowers on GunBroker Some people were paying $2500+ for M&P15's
                  Settle down, folks. The new "ghost gun" regulations probably don't do what you think they do.


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                  • #24
                    tonyxcom
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Aug 2011
                    • 6397

                    Don't forget $100 PMAGs and 556 for a $1 a round.

                    And as I post this, another sale email from PA.

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                    • #25
                      ca_sig_z
                      Junior Member
                      • Dec 2016
                      • 61

                      Maybe I am too new to the market but it does not seem very buyer to me. Maybe I am not driving far away from sf but I am seeing featureless ar around 1k, lowers around 150. I go on Reddit gun deals and see sport II for 500 and it makes me annoyed. I want an ar, figured I will let the craze die down but it seems to not cooled down.


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                      • #26
                        kcheung2
                        Veteran Member
                        • Aug 2012
                        • 4387

                        You just need to find better shops. There's plenty of inexpensive AR stuff out there. Here's a post for $750 CA-compliant ARs in southern CA. Not that Turner's is necessarily a "better shop", but it is proof that those prices exist.



                        In your area, try Tracy Rifle and Pistol.
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                        "There is no "best." If there was, everyone here would own that one, and no other." - DSB

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                        • #27
                          UberPatriot
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2012
                          • 2069

                          Originally posted by ca_sig_z
                          Maybe I am too new to the market but it does not seem very buyer to me. Maybe I am not driving far away from sf but I am seeing featureless ar around 1k, lowers around 150. I go on Reddit gun deals and see sport II for 500 and it makes me annoyed. I want an ar, figured I will let the craze die down but it seems to not cooled down.


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                          Just curious, why wait until now to get an AR?
                          You could have easily picked up one for $500 within the last year.
                          Location: Olympic Peninsula Washington

                          NRA Member

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                          • #28
                            jimbo74
                            Veteran Member
                            • Mar 2014
                            • 2923

                            Originally posted by ca_sig_z
                            Maybe I am too new to the market but it does not seem very buyer to me. Maybe I am not driving far away from sf but I am seeing featureless ar around 1k, lowers around 150. I go on Reddit gun deals and see sport II for 500 and it makes me annoyed. I want an ar, figured I will let the craze die down but it seems to not cooled down.


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                            lowers are typically from $50-150 ... an mp15 @ $500 is an awesome deal ---- well, might have been, if it had features..... now --- eh
                            "It is currently CA legal to modify a double-action revolver into a single-action revolver and modify a single-action revolver into a double-action revolver.

                            CA DOJ BOF stance on modifying handguns only applies to dimensionally compliant bolt-action single-shot pistols and dimensionally compliant break-open single-shot pistols.
                            ^It does not apply to revolvers, manually operated repeating pistols, and semi-auto pistols." ~~ Quiet

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                            • #29
                              tradecraft
                              Veteran Member
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 4588

                              Originally posted by ca_sig_z
                              Maybe I am too new to the market but it does not seem very buyer to me. Maybe I am not driving far away from sf but I am seeing featureless ar around 1k, lowers around 150. I go on Reddit gun deals and see sport II for 500 and it makes me annoyed. I want an ar, figured I will let the craze die down but it seems to not cooled down.


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                              The market is FLOODED with cheap ARs right now. If you think this is a craze you are going to be super disappointed.
                              Link to my feedback: https://www.calguns.net/forum/market...ser-tradecraft

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                              • #30
                                stevemac
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2016
                                • 504

                                It's a buyer's market if you're talking about used guns. I've purchased 4 this year so far, 3 used and 1 new.

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