By CA definition, is an A2 bird cage a flash hider?

[Ki6vsm]

Here's the issue that i am having. The online retailer calls it a brake. The manufacturer calls it a flash suppressor. I guess i should go with the description provided by the manufacturer...

https://troyind.com/products/medieval-flash-suppressor-556

https://www.riflegear.com/p-3777-tro...ead-matte.aspx

You are comparing the wrong parts. Here is the Troy brake seen in the RG page.

https://troyind.com/products/medieval-muzzle-brake-556

They are very similar obviously. The brake version has a closed end and small hole. The FS version has an open end.

[major burnout]

And who is going to determine that they do reduce flash?

My flash enlargers are garaunteed to enlarge your flash or your money back.

[twodko]

It's my understanding that since I bought my AR 15 A2 Sporter in 1984, complied with the nazi Dan Lundgren AW registration, the birdcage
flash suppressor that came on the rifle when I bought it makes my weapon
still fully legal because I'm "grandfathered" go own it as its configured.

Correct?

[peterinsj]

It depends on whether the source you bought it from calls it a flash hider or muzzle brake, there are are items that look a lot like a flash hider or flash suppressor that are called a muzzle brake by the manufacturer and vise versa.

[major burnout]

Nice. Exactly the kind of stuff that i was looking for. BUT: what does that mean for a linear compensator? Wouldnt sending the flash forward constitute "redirect muzzle flash from the shooter's field of vision"?

My flash enlargers have slots on the top to direct flash into the shooters field of view.

[Ki6vsm]

Hey guys. Just thought Id advertise my new flash enlarger. Major Burnouts flash enlarger is garaunteed to make your muzzle flash larger or your money back. Each flash enlarger is manufactured from recycled flash hiders, so they are a CA green product. Only $9.99 +S&H(with trade in of your old flash hider). Dont be caught in the dark with out your Major Burnout Flash Enlarger!

My flash enlargers are garaunteed to enlarge your flash or your money back.

My flash enlargers have slots on the top to direct flash into the shooters field of view.

Okay... okay... I think we get the joke by now.

[bronco75a]

It's my understanding that since I bought my AR 15 A2 Sporter in 1984, complied with the nazi Dan Lundgren AW registration, the birdcage
flash suppressor that came on the rifle when I bought it makes my weapon
still fully legal because I'm "grandfathered" go own it as its configured.

Correct?

If you're grandfathered in I believe that is correct. The new regulations apply to those weapons bought between 2001 and 31 Dec 2016.

[lordmorgul]

If you're grandfathered in I believe that is correct. The new regulations apply to those weapons bought between 2001 and 31 Dec 2016.

Yes, The RAW mentioned qualifies as AW and can have a flash hider.

Even a newly acquired SACF rifle can have a flash hider if it is a registered AW.



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[philc]

You are comparing the wrong parts. Here is the Troy brake seen in the RG page.

https://troyind.com/products/medieval-muzzle-brake-556

They are very similar obviously. The brake version has a closed end and small hole. The FS version has an open end.

Nice catch. I only looked at the last few numbers of the sku.

[kozumasbullitt]

A lot of people are missing the point that it doesn't matter what the manufacturer calls the device in regard to not being a flash hider. If the muzzle device has any flash hiding properties, it is a feature regardless of what it is called. Muzzle brakes typically have bullet sizes exits so that is where I would start if I didn't just use a thread protector.

[lordmorgul]

A lot of people are missing the point that it doesn't matter what the manufacturer calls the device in regard to not being a flash hider. If the muzzle device has any flash hiding properties, it is a feature regardless of what it is called. Muzzle brakes typically have bullet sizes exits so that is where I would start if I didn't just use a thread protector.

It does matter. But a manufacturer can only doom their own product. "Designed to" is very open ended, if manufacturer says it is then it is a flash hider.

But if it actually does hide or reduce flash in shooters vision, then it's also a flash hider.


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[God Bless America]

Here's the issue that i am having. The online retailer calls it a brake. The manufacturer calls it a flash suppressor. I guess i should go with the description provided by the manufacturer...

https://troyind.com/products/medieval-flash-suppressor-556

https://www.riflegear.com/p-3777-tro...ead-matte.aspx

They make medieval suppressors, and brakes. Call riflegear and verify, but I think they have a brake in their picture: https://troyind.com/products/medieval-muzzle-brake-556

[major burnout]

A lot of people are missing the point that it doesn't matter what the manufacturer calls the device in regard to not being a flash hider. If the muzzle device has any flash hiding properties, it is a feature regardless of what it is called. Muzzle brakes typically have bullet sizes exits so that is where I would start if I didn't just use a thread protector.

I think some people are missing the point. If a manufacturer claims the flash enlarger makes the flash bigger then its up to the DA to prove a crime has occured.

[Ki6vsm]

They make medieval suppressors, and brakes. Call riflegear and verify, but I think they have a brake in their picture: https://troyind.com/products/medieval-muzzle-brake-556

Yeah, I mentioned this to the poster above. Troy's SKUs for the two pieces are very similar. Made it confusing.

[kozumasbullitt]

I think some people are missing the point. If a manufacturer claims the flash enlarger makes the flash bigger then its up to the DA to prove a crime has occured.

Do people really want to take it that far rather than simply use a thread protector or actual brake? I personally would not want to pay the legal fees and go through all the motions if some LEO confiscates my firearm and cites/arrests me. It would not be very hard to prove an A2 birdcage is indeed a flash hider.