Unconfigured Ad Widget

Collapse

Muzzle Brakes--Why??

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • musketjon
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2008
    • 1746

    Muzzle Brakes--Why??

    OK, I'm not trying to start any thing here. Just trying to understand something. I'm not new to firearms by any stretch of the imagination--I've been shooting for over 50 years. I shoot big-bore, i.e. 30-06, 7.62x54R, .303 Brit, 7.7 Jap, and several others. I have never needed a muzzle brake on any thing. If you learn to hold the rifle correctly, you can shoot it all day long and not get beat up by it.
    My question to you guys is: why do you need a muzzle brake on a rifle such as the AR15 that has virtually no recoil? Are today's shooters that weak-kneed or did they not take the time to learn to shoot properly?
    Again, I'm not trying to start a pizzing contest, just trying to have a question answered.
    Jon
  • #2
    hermosabeach
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Feb 2009
    • 19350

    Same reason why you remove the pipes from a Harley....make it loud so all of South Park knows you are cool
    Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

    Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

    Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

    Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
    (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

    Comment

    • #3
      Citadelgrad87
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Mar 2007
      • 16871

      First, I don't think anything you described is "big bore", but I get your meaning and I don't shoot much larger than you do.

      I think a brake is more, for me anyway, for faster follow up rather than comfort. Even an AR in 5.56 recoils. Can a kid handle it? Sure, but the sights move when shooting.

      Don't discount the combat Barbie trend, either, many want their rifles to look a certain way.
      Originally posted by tony270
      It's easy to be a keyboard warrior, you would melt like wax in front of me, you wouldn't be able to move your lips.
      Originally posted by repubconserv
      Print it out and frame it for all I care
      Originally posted by el chivo
      I don't need to think at all..
      Originally posted by pjsig
      You are talking to someone who already won this lame conversation, not a brick a wall. Too bad you don't realize it.
      XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
      sigpic

      Comment

      • #4
        hermosabeach
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Feb 2009
        • 19350

        A more serious reply-

        Some people are recoil over sensitive

        The brake helps to hide when a shooter has poor natural point of aim and helps to reduce group size

        Some can shoot and spot as the scope does not move off of target

        Cool factor

        And they do not hunt / shoot them without double ear protection- plugs and muffs
        Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

        Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

        Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

        Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
        (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

        Comment

        • #5
          Saym14
          Calguns Addict
          • Jul 2009
          • 7892

          Use mine for 3 Gun , much faster follow up shots and faster double taps

          Comment

          • #6
            Corpral_Agarn
            Member
            • Nov 2012
            • 465

            Originally posted by Saym14
            Use mine for 3 Gun , much faster follow up shots and faster double taps
            +1

            I have a sleeve for mine. I can turn the blast on or off.

            On for competition, off for plinking/ranch stuff.
            My competition gear is sponsored by LAG Tactical!
            Check out my YouTube Channel: EvanTV

            Comment

            • #7
              Brian7581
              Member
              • Mar 2013
              • 166

              Relative to you, I'm new to shooting. However, I'll throw in my 2 cents on why muzzle brakes.

              Every gun has some amount of recoil - small or big. Though I agree with you with the fact that the AR15 has such little recoil for it to be considered anything, there is still recoil.

              As such, the muzzle brake or comps are put in place by individuals because they would like to have quicker accurate follow-up shots. It's easier/quicker to get back on target (even if relatively small) when the gun jumps less.

              Though I have not been involved in any competitions, I would imagine sometime those small margins of error are enough to decide who the winner or loser is.

              Others please chime in as I'm interested in other thoughts.

              Comment

              • #8
                Danodog
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                CGN Contributor
                • May 2013
                • 2531

                All of my pre-built uppers came with one. I never even gave it a thought.
                Calguns Contributor
                NRA Benefactor Member
                CRPA Member
                San Diego County Gun Owners Patriot Member
                What have you done for 2A lately?

                Comment

                • #9
                  steelheadmike
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2013
                  • 691

                  Because I'm not crazy about thread protectors and the CA legislature said I can't have a flash hider.

                  Comment

                  • #10
                    mif_slim
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 10089

                    Add to faster follow up shots, with a brake(muahaha!) You can see your bullet impact so you can adjust for the next shot. Espcially if you have sucky or no spotters.
                    Originally posted by Gottmituns
                    It's not protecting the rights of the 1%, it's IMPOSING new laws because of the 1%.

                    Comment

                    • #11
                      Erion929
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jan 2013
                      • 4706

                      I think a lot of us newer AR15 owners are just looking for Cali-legal options for featureless, i.e., removing the flash hiders.

                      For me, "muzzle brakes" just are more commonly heard of....compared to linear comps and 2-piece blast directors....and thus, a starting point for research.

                      I now know that I don't want a brake due to the side concussion, and decided on a linear comp for forward-directed concussion.

                      "Brakes" are just a hot topic in Californistan
                      Join Active Junky for online rebates....$10 to both you and me!

                      https://www.activejunky.com/invite/238017


                      Comment

                      • #12
                        ProtectThe2nd
                        In Memoriam
                        • Mar 2016
                        • 1225

                        I think flash hiders were a feature (no pun intended) that yielded
                        a tacticool advantage in a firefight...

                        Now that they are literally a feature (as in an AW component)...
                        Folks needed something to replace it with that wasn't a boring thread cap.

                        Bring in the loud muzzle break...aside from noise they look cool
                        sigpic
                        ESCAPE IF YOU CAN


                        A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

                        "The Second Amendment ex-tends, prima facie, to all instruments that constitute bearable arms, even those that were not in existence at the time of the founding." - The United States Supreme Court -

                        Comment

                        • #13
                          Siberian23
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2011
                          • 550

                          14.5 or 14.7" barrel needs something pinned to be 16" these days it's gotta be a brake for featureless.

                          Comment

                          • #14
                            tamalpias
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 1980

                            I shoot at ground squirrels for years with my 22-250 without a brake. My friends would keep telling me how cool the shots look or relay back what would happen to the squirrel upon impact. Nice to know but after adding on a brake I can see it as it happens because the muzzle does not shake. I shoot 12 gauge, 308, 7mm, and a 375 Holland & Holland without a brake because those are my big game guns.

                            So to answer your question, it is for entertainment purposes. I don't have a brake on anything else including my bull barrel AR, 22 hornet, and 223 rifles.

                            Comment

                            • #15
                              ChuckDizzle
                              Banned
                              • Dec 2013
                              • 4398

                              Originally posted by musketjon
                              OK, I'm not trying to start any thing here. Just trying to understand something. I'm not new to firearms by any stretch of the imagination--I've been shooting for over 50 years. I shoot big-bore, i.e. 30-06, 7.62x54R, .303 Brit, 7.7 Jap, and several others. I have never needed a muzzle brake on any thing. If you learn to hold the rifle correctly, you can shoot it all day long and not get beat up by it.
                              My question to you guys is: why do you need a muzzle brake on a rifle such as the AR15 that has virtually no recoil? Are today's shooters that weak-kneed or did they not take the time to learn to shoot properly?
                              Again, I'm not trying to start a pizzing contest, just trying to have a question answered.
                              Jon
                              It's not about getting beaten up by a rifle or not, it is about getting your sights back on target as quickly as possible. Even a light recoiling rifle like a .22 LR will still have some shift in the point of aim uppon firing. In action shooting competitions you are measuring hits against time, some times in fractions of a second between competitors, thererfore any slight edge you can get in your ability to get the sights back on target and make a hit is worth doing.

                              Comment

                              Working...
                              UA-8071174-1