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  • #46
    ar15barrels
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jan 2006
    • 56983

    Originally posted by OCGunLover
    Just curious, and please go easy on me, I'm completely new to the world of AKs, is it possible to have the parts of the C39V2 that are supposedly "soft," chromed for hardness? Seems to me that if you sent those parts to be chromed, that would increase lubricity and solve hardness issues.
    Hard chrome would not increase the strength of the soft material.
    It would just put a hard skin on it.
    The hard skin would still set-back with use.

    The CORE needs to be made harder.
    No way to do that short of heat treating the receiver.
    Randall Rausch

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    • #47
      Bgillette91
      Member
      • Jan 2016
      • 349

      I have had my v2 for nearly a year now. I went through the same paranoia period as you, but the gun has been proving me wrong. For sure the weakest point on the rifle is the cast trunnions and bolt/ carrier. Actually im not sure if the carrier is cast, but the bolt and trunnions definitely are. Watch the v2 videos that TexasGunSmith put on YouTube. He will explain all you need to know about your v2. I did what he did, bought a new polish bolt carrier and bolt (milled) dated 1960 through apex gun parts. My bolt was starting to get a little too worn for my liking (even though the headspace was still fine). I love my new polish bolt and carrier. Super slick.

      And for the record I have only had 1 malfunction in all the shooting Ive done through it, and it was due to sihtty Tapco magazine.
      Ban Idiots. Not Guns.

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      • #48
        Walther White
        Junior Member
        • Sep 2016
        • 69

        Originally posted by dwinters14
        I just picked up my C39V2 after a full two nights of shocking research. Before i buy a rifle I always do my homework and heard all the bad about Century. But I heard it specifically about the RAS47... nothing about the C39. I then proceeded to watch reviews from some respected youtubers who said the C39V2 was GTG. So I figured I dodged the the RAS47 bullet...

        Apparently I jumped the gun...

        After reading about the soft cast metal internals, the first thing I did when I got home was take hi-res pictures of the rife, and every single part to keep track of the "probable" excessive wear my gun will see. Now this may not be much, but by just operating the action with snap caps I've already started to see the finish wear off around the charging handle as well as the bolt carrier face.

        Could this just be the surfaces breaking themselves in? Maybe. Am I being a little paranoid? Absolutely. Could it be the telltale signs of excessive wear? Maybe as well.

        I won't know for sure until I take it to the range, but when I do I will document it, and post my findings. That way any potential future owners looking to buy this specific rifle may get some more insight into this potential issue.
        Mine did the same thing when I racked it ONE TIME!. One would think that when you spend around 9 hundo for a rifle you would get better quality than this. I have owned Century rifles in the past and been happy with them. But I just did not like what what I was seeing especially since everyone's reviews on the inter webs was creaming over the C39V2 when it first came out. I liked the quality of the outer portion of the gun (receiver, barrel, etc.) but the internals sucked. I sold it after having it for less than a year. Sold it when so many are clamoring for AKs right now just before the ban, too.
        Last edited by Walther White; 09-29-2016, 9:14 PM.

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        • #49
          -hanko
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          CGN Contributor
          • Jul 2002
          • 14174

          Originally posted by Discogodfather
          I did, they said the C39v2 was GTG. Passed the tests, I think this was after 3k.

          The rifle is very well put together and finished well, I don't think it's junk. I think, as usual, there is always a story that comes with a Century gun. They just do not have a good rep, and it continues.
          CAI's reputation has been with them for 20-plus years. They do a good job with the weapons they import...if you've got a good sales rep you can get some great deals. Their parts kits are usually as described.

          Where they bite the big one is with guns they actually assemble...one gunsmith in the place, a ton of assemblers on minimum wage. Not to mention using materials not hard enough for the job, and setting the sandblaster to warp speed.

          CAI's rep is well deserved.

          What surprised me is that they're asking and getting $900 for the gun...true?? That might cause me to think about having ARS or Krebs or anybody that can do good ak work build one for me.


          Originally posted by wireless
          lol....
          Same here.


          Originally posted by Walther White
          Mine did the same thing when I racked it ONE TIME!. One would think that when you spend around 9 hundo for a rifle you would get better quality than this. I have owned Century rifles in the past and been happy with them. But I just did not like what what I was seeing especially since everyone's reviews on the inter webs was creaming over the C39V2 when it first came out. I liked the quality of the outer portion of the gun (receiver, barrel, etc.) but the internals sucked. I sold it after having it for less than a year. Sold it when so many are clamoring for AKs right now just before the ban, too.
          Usually, if you expect nothing you'll never be disappointed. Regardless of the creaming over the gun, it's still from CAI. I'd hold them to be in the same class as IO.
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          • #50
            Bgillette91
            Member
            • Jan 2016
            • 349

            IO is in their own class. Not even close.
            Ban Idiots. Not Guns.

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            • #51
              justagun
              Member
              • Jan 2013
              • 475

              Originally posted by Bgillette91
              I have had my v2 for nearly a year now. I went through the same paranoia period as you, but the gun has been proving me wrong. For sure the weakest point on the rifle is the cast trunnions and bolt/ carrier. Actually im not sure if the carrier is cast, but the bolt and trunnions definitely are. Watch the v2 videos that TexasGunSmith put on YouTube. He will explain all you need to know about your v2. I did what he did, bought a new polish bolt carrier and bolt (milled) dated 1960 through apex gun parts. My bolt was starting to get a little too worn for my liking (even though the headspace was still fine). I love my new polish bolt and carrier. Super slick.

              And for the record I have only had 1 malfunction in all the shooting Ive done through it, and it was due to sihtty Tapco magazine.
              C39V2 is milled receiver, so isnt the trunnion a part of the receiver.

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              • #52
                Bgillette91
                Member
                • Jan 2016
                • 349

                Originally posted by justagun
                C39V2 is milled receiver, so isnt the trunnion a part of the receiver.
                It makes contact with the receiver but it isnt actually part of it.
                Ban Idiots. Not Guns.

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                • #53
                  Discogodfather
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 5516

                  Originally posted by Bgillette91
                  It makes contact with the receiver but it isnt actually part of it.
                  There is no trunion it's all one solid piece, like all milled AK's. Maybe your thinking about the bullet guide?
                  Originally posted by doggie
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                  • #54
                    ar15barrels
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 56983

                    Originally posted by Bgillette91
                    It makes contact with the receiver but it isnt actually part of it.
                    The C39V2 receiver is a milled receiver.
                    Both front and rear trunnion areas are milled from the same piece as the rest of the reciever.
                    There are no separate trunnions.
                    Only the triggergaurd is riveted on.
                    Randall Rausch

                    AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                    Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                    Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                    Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                    Most work performed while-you-wait.

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                    • #55
                      sc870
                      Member
                      • Dec 2015
                      • 443

                      Man, my LGS just got some c39v2's and I wanted to pick one up. I might have to go all out for there arsenal.

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                      • #56
                        cappah78
                        Junior Member
                        • Apr 2013
                        • 22

                        Are there any good rails for the C39v2? My rifle feels naked, I dont like any TWS rail cover-type thingies and I dont want to be a magpul groupie (other than mags)

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                        • #57
                          ar15barrels
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 56983

                          Originally posted by cappah78
                          Are there any good rails for the C39v2? My rifle feels naked, I dont like any TWS rail cover-type thingies and I dont want to be a magpul groupie (other than mags)
                          The serial number is engraved on the left side so it's not possible to rivet an optic mount rail to the receiver as it would both deface and obstruct the serial number.
                          I have mounted rails with two screws without defacing the markings so that they can be removed to read the markings, but you can not drill the center hole of the rail mount as it goes right through the middle of the markings.
                          Randall Rausch

                          AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                          Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                          Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                          Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                          Most work performed while-you-wait.

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                          • #58
                            luckyduck
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2012
                            • 856

                            The convenience of buying a brand new AK at your LGS is not worth the potential headache/heartache.

                            Find a Vepr/Saiga/Polish/Bulgy build ANYWHERE for sale in the US. Have them ship it to your LGS featureless (without a flash hider, pistol grip and folding stock).

                            You'll be happier in the long run.

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                            • #59
                              cappah78
                              Junior Member
                              • Apr 2013
                              • 22

                              Originally posted by ar15barrels
                              The serial number is engraved on the left side so it's not possible to rivet an optic mount rail to the receiver as it would both deface and obstruct the serial number.
                              I have mounted rails with two screws without defacing the markings so that they can be removed to read the markings, but you can not drill the center hole of the rail mount as it goes right through the middle of the markings.
                              Funny. My serial number is on the underside forward of the magazine well just like this image

                              You sure you have a C39v2?
                              Last edited by cappah78; 10-02-2016, 7:48 PM.

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                              • #60
                                ar15barrels
                                I need a LIFE!!
                                • Jan 2006
                                • 56983

                                Originally posted by cappah78
                                Funny. My serial number is on the underside forward of the magazine well just like this image

                                You sure you have a C39v2?
                                Yep.
                                It had all those same markings on the left side, right above the fire control pins and behind the flag, right where an optic rail belongs.
                                Perhaps it was an earlier one and they figured out that the markings are in the way of putting an optic rail on the receiver when they marked them that way.
                                Randall Rausch

                                AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                                Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                                Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                                Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                                Most work performed while-you-wait.

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