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  • #46
    Rifle ronin
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2016
    • 1196

    An outright ban on long gun centerfire is the final nail in the coffin. it may take them a while longer to do but very possible. I see it in a socio-economic view. Wide margines of rich and poor. Rich want power with minimal risk of rebellion. Immigrants becoming citizens from countries where gun are outlawed and have little understanding of the American constitution. big money and long time liberal politicians pushing gun control on people who do not understand 2nd amendment rights. California is doomed to outright firearms ban.
    Last edited by Rifle ronin; 08-01-2016, 8:06 AM.
    I dreamed of owning a (insert off roster gun here)...

    Oh yeah....then the earth splits open with me on one side and the (off roster gun) on the other. Then appeared a large red-glowing pit with gavin newscum, diane frankenstein and governor "brown the drain" at the bottom of it, waving their pitchforks at me.
    (Non caps intended)

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    • #47
      Jimi Jah
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Jan 2014
      • 19323

      To be Determined...

      Remember the Cal legislature has another session this year and they can outlaw featureless then. I suspect they read all the workarounds here and have a stack of bills ready to outlaw all of them.

      They are just getting started...

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      • #48
        Madmox
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2013
        • 605

        Originally posted by Bobby Ricigliano
        Yeah, whatever. Does anyone still even use that old outdated stuff? Might as well whip out my longbow and start building that trebuchet kit in the garage.


        Haha. Trebuchets are a beautiful thing. Nothing strikes fear in the hearts of The Man like a good siege engine!


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        • #49
          Oceanbob
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jun 2010
          • 12720

          Originally posted by Bobby Ricigliano
          Yeah, whatever. Does anyone still even use that old outdated stuff? Might as well whip out my longbow and start building that trebuchet kit in the garage.
          Originally posted by Madmox
          Haha. Trebuchets are a beautiful thing. Nothing strikes fear in the hearts of The Man like a good siege engine!


          Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
          WAY AHEAD of you guys......

          I've been building this secretly in my Garage.......

          It remains UNREGISTERED and it's the MAGNUM MODEL.

          I plan to take it to the next Zombie shoot and launch rotten tomatoes towards
          Sacramento.

          May the Bridges I burn light the way.

          Life Is Not About Waiting For The Storm To Pass - Its About Learning To Dance In The Rain.

          Fewer people are killed with all rifles each year (323 in 2011) than with shotguns (356), hammers and clubs (496), and hands and feet (728).

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          • #50
            GM4spd
            Calguns Addict
            • May 2008
            • 5682

            Featureless is just " kicking the proverbial can down the road". It's just
            dragging out the inevitable. If you want to own a semi auto AR type platform that is useful
            and works the way it was INTENDED you may as well register. If you don't
            want to register that's fine,also. Pete

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            • #51
              CWDraco
              Banned
              • May 2007
              • 3359

              Originally posted by GM4spd
              Featureless is just " kicking the proverbial can down the road". It's just
              dragging out the inevitable. If you want to own a semi auto AR type platform that is useful
              and works the way it was INTENDED you may as well register. If you don't
              want to register that's fine,also. Pete
              what about those of us who want to Hunt, or pass our firearms down to our children...or loan our firearms to our children or friends...

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              • #52
                GM4spd
                Calguns Addict
                • May 2008
                • 5682

                Originally posted by CWDraco
                what about those of us who want to Hunt, or pass our firearms down to our children...or loan our firearms to our children or friends...

                Well, you're out of luck with the present laws on the books. No amount of
                beating this to death with threads on this forum is going to change any of
                this bad legislation. Actually, beating this stuff to death on this site has
                probably resulted in its own "unintended consequences". Pete

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                • #53
                  CWDraco
                  Banned
                  • May 2007
                  • 3359

                  Originally posted by GM4spd
                  Well, you're out of luck with the present laws on the books. No amount of
                  beating this to death with threads on this forum is going to change any of
                  this bad legislation. Actually, beating this stuff to death on this site has
                  probably resulted in its own "unintended consequences". Pete

                  sorry to keep you up on current events...Heller and Harrott....please read them.



                  Featureless isnt going anywhere unless the POTUS and congress pass an AWB.

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                  • #54
                    GM4spd
                    Calguns Addict
                    • May 2008
                    • 5682

                    Originally posted by CWDraco
                    sorry to keep you up on current events...Heller and Harrott....please read them.



                    Featureless isnt going anywhere unless the POTUS and congress pass an AWB.
                    That's all very nice. Does nothing to change any law passed recently in this
                    state. Pete

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                    • #55
                      ifilef
                      Banned
                      • Apr 2008
                      • 5665

                      Originally posted by Jimi Jah
                      To be Determined...

                      Remember the Cal legislature has another session this year and they can outlaw featureless then. I suspect they read all the workarounds here and have a stack of bills ready to outlaw all of them.

                      ...
                      Not so according to NRA, AB 1663 defeated for 2016 legislative session: http://www.nramemberscouncils.com/le...1663&year=2016

                      Are we still in 2016 session, commencing today? I don't know.

                      In any event, I think featureless are basically untouchable under the 2nd Am. If banned here prospectively and held constitutional (unlikely), they would have to prospectively ban semi-auto handguns. Moreover, statutes overwhelmingly acknowledge featureless along with court decisions which distinguish an AW from a regular semi-auto centerfire rifle.
                      Last edited by ifilef; 08-01-2016, 5:40 PM.

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                      • #56
                        CWDraco
                        Banned
                        • May 2007
                        • 3359

                        Originally posted by GM4spd
                        That's all very nice. Does nothing to change any law passed recently in this
                        state. Pete
                        No, they provide that the lower courts cant determine what an AW is and what they can willy nilly ban...or that a state cant ban guns out right...the AG had a time frame to add AWs to a list... then the list was FOREVER locked and only features determine an AW... so featureless is protected.

                        Featureless isnt going away unless they over turn the 2nd A.

                        Killary will try that...

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                        • #57
                          Jimi Jah
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Jan 2014
                          • 19323

                          California could do an Oz and ban all semi-auto firearms. With "no legal controlling authority" from the Clinton administration, expect no relief from the Feds if that happens here.

                          Like immigration and pot laws, the Feds can ignore any laws they want. And they do.

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                          • #58
                            Bobby Ricigliano
                            Mit Gott und Mauser
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 17439

                            I had a vision of what "SHTF" will look like:

                            Superfly Ron O'Neal and a mixed bag of Russian and Cuban paratroopers will launch a daytime raid on a strategically vital target, a rural high school. A 30 Year old American guy who still hangs out at his old high school will lead a ragtag band of pimply, cracking voiced kids into the hills and they will proceed to mop up the enemy with deer rifles and single action revolvers. When the 30 year old guy discovers the Russians have destroyed his truck by throwing a stop sign through the windshield, he sends the most expendable member of the wolverines to take out Russian HIND chopper with small arms fire. Eventually, the old dude rests at his field headquarters which is a barn and unwinds with some sweaty bare chested Bikram hot yoga.

                            Eventually, William Smith will show up, having been minted as a Russian General as a reward for his performance in the Jackson Hole street fight against Philo Beddoe.
                            William zippers the two lead characters with his commie subgun, after he hears the younger one yell "Winning!!" while singlehandedly mowing down a battalion of Spetznas with a captured AK.

                            General William, remembering the mercy Philo showed him in Jackson Hole, waves off the wounded Wolverines as a sort of "Pay it Forward."

                            The end.
                            Last edited by Bobby Ricigliano; 08-05-2016, 10:31 PM.

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