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  • Steve1968LS2
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Feb 2010
    • 9248

    .223 Wylde

    Any downside to building an AR in .223 Wylde rather than .223/5.56?

    Looking at a barrel from Battle Arms and all they seem to have is .223 Wylde .. will run all the AR 5.56/.223 ammo right?

    Thanks!
    Originally posted by tony270
    It's easy to be a keyboard warrior, you would melt like wax in front of me, you wouldn't be able to move your lips.
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    Dr_Kevorkian
    Member
    • Jan 2014
    • 255

    Originally posted by Steve1968LS2
    Any downside to building an AR in .223 Wylde rather than .223/5.56?

    Looking at a barrel from Battle Arms and all they seem to have is .223 Wylde .. will run all the AR 5.56/.223 ammo right?

    Thanks!
    Yes, you can run both .223 and 5.56

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    • #3
      highpower790
      Veteran Member
      • Jun 2013
      • 3481

      Its a big plus to run a Wylde chamber!Run it all without worry.
      Keep it simple!

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      • #4
        getpro56
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2012
        • 527

        Just finished an AR in 223 Wylde. Took it to Angeles this past weekend and shot both 556 and 223 out of it with no issues at all. Fairly accurate as well.

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        • #5
          ExtremeX
          Calguns Addict
          • Sep 2010
          • 7160

          In an AR my preference would be towards a 223 Wylde chamber over a 5.56 chamber... you are good to go across the board.

          The only thing I would take over that is a properly cut/chambered and headspaced 223 match chamber if I intended to run hand loaded ammo.
          ExtremeX

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          • #6
            Steve1968LS2
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            CGN Contributor
            • Feb 2010
            • 9248

            Thanks..

            So, if the Wylde is go good then why isn't it the standard chambering? There must be some reason..
            Originally posted by tony270
            It's easy to be a keyboard warrior, you would melt like wax in front of me, you wouldn't be able to move your lips.
            Member: Patron member NRA, lifetime member SAF, CRPA

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            • #7
              ExtremeX
              Calguns Addict
              • Sep 2010
              • 7160

              Originally posted by Steve1968LS2
              Thanks..

              So, if the Wylde is go good then why isn't it the standard chambering? There must be some reason..
              Cost of tooling, the cost of re-configuring a machine, and the mil-spec crowd who wants everything to match up to mil type spec might be a few... You will probably find most of those barrels setup with a 1:7 twist as well.

              For the type of barrels I shop for... its actually difficult to find a 5.56 chamber. Most everything is stainless steel, 1:8 twist, and sporting a Wylde or match chamber.

              For the guy shooting XM193, M855, PMC Bronze or any other bulk type plinking ammo.... none of it is even going to make a discernable difference. You pretty much have to buy match ammo and or reload to realize any benefit. That said, the overall quality of the barrel and manufacturing will have more of an impact than the type of chamber or even barrel material. A good barrel is a good barrel...
              Last edited by ExtremeX; 06-06-2016, 5:58 PM.
              ExtremeX

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              • #8
                milotrain
                Veteran Member
                • Apr 2011
                • 4301

                Originally posted by Steve1968LS2
                Thanks..

                So, if the Wylde is go good then why isn't it the standard chambering? There must be some reason..
                Two reasons.
                1. The NATO chamber fits tracers, so it's what the military wants.
                2. It showed up later and the NATO chamber does just fine for most people.

                The Wylde chamber is becoming far more common in ARs though.
                weg: That device is obsolete now. They replaced it with wizards.
                frank: Wait a minute. There are more than one wizard? Is [are?] the wizard calibrated?

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                • #9
                  highpower790
                  Veteran Member
                  • Jun 2013
                  • 3481

                  Originally posted by milotrain
                  Two reasons.
                  1. The NATO chamber fits tracers, so it's what the military wants.
                  2. It showed up later and the NATO chamber does just fine for most people.

                  The Wylde chamber is becoming far more common in ARs though.
                  For those that reload, the CLE,I think the better chamber simply because its shorter throat Ive noticed gives longer barrel life.
                  Last edited by highpower790; 06-06-2016, 7:04 PM.
                  Keep it simple!

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                  • #10
                    Daisy'sDad
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2013
                    • 589

                    ExtremeX is right on IMO.
                    No reason not to go Wylde.
                    I can't personally verify it, but I've heard it will
                    shoot . 223 more accurately
                    because of the throat/leade dimensions being tighter.
                    (I can't wait for some shm*ck to comment
                    about how Wylde is just the new buzz word).
                    Last edited by Daisy'sDad; 06-07-2016, 4:11 AM.
                    Certified Glock Armorer/NRA Certified Pistol Instructor and RSO

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                    • #11
                      ScottsBad
                      Progressives Suck!
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • May 2009
                      • 5610

                      No downside. What you need to ask is what the twist rate is. 1/8 OK 1/7 OK 1/9 I wouldn't buy.
                      sigpicC'mon man, shouldn't we ban Democracks from Cal-Guns? Or at least send them to re-education camps.

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                      • #12
                        GunnyUSMC
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2016
                        • 551

                        The 223 Wylde is the garbage disposal of the 5.56/.223 world. It will eat everything.
                        Do not relish to feel what the men that used these weapons felt when they saw the elephant. For the elephant has tusk and to see him is to have his tusk dig deep into your soul. You will always have a part of you that will be cold and empty.
                        GySgt G.L.Bihm USMC

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                        • #13
                          Steve1968LS2
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 9248

                          Thanks for all the info..

                          I'm building a lightweight AR based on a Battle Arms lower/upper and their barrel.. Figured I might as well do it now.
                          Originally posted by tony270
                          It's easy to be a keyboard warrior, you would melt like wax in front of me, you wouldn't be able to move your lips.
                          Member: Patron member NRA, lifetime member SAF, CRPA

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                          • #14
                            Steve1968LS2
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 9248

                            Originally posted by ScottsBad
                            No downside. What you need to ask is what the twist rate is. 1/8 OK 1/7 OK 1/9 I wouldn't buy.
                            1/8 twist lightweight stainless

                            Originally posted by tony270
                            It's easy to be a keyboard warrior, you would melt like wax in front of me, you wouldn't be able to move your lips.
                            Member: Patron member NRA, lifetime member SAF, CRPA

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                            • #15
                              BigPimping
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 21388

                              Take a walk on the Wylde side.
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                              When pimping begins, friendship ends.

                              Don't let your history be a mystery

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