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  • CaliforniaLiberal
    #1 Bull Goose Loony
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Jan 2008
    • 4690

    Top loading AR with clips??

    Need some help with my latest brainstorm.

    Been reading about the proposed CA bills working through the Legislature, some of which would completely outlaw all semi-auto, centerfire rifles without fixed magazines. Like no fooling really fixed like a Garand.

    So how about some new reworking of an AR15 with a clip fed, top loading fixed magazine. Figure out some sort of Garand looking system, clips that hold 8 or 10 5.56 NATO rounds.

    And of course the clip has to ring like a bell when it gets kicked out empty.

    I'm pretty vague here, no working model, no solid details.

    I realize that this might be extremely lame compared to an actual AR with a 30 round magazine, but what about some new design to keep us out of jail if (God Forbid!) these new bills pass the Leg and get signed into Law?
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    Danodog
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    • May 2013
    • 2533

    Getting the popcorn right now. Just have to find the lawn chair......
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    • #3
      CaliforniaLiberal
      #1 Bull Goose Loony
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      • Jan 2008
      • 4690

      What?

      Are you saying this will cause controversy? Heated replies? Boundless entertainment?
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      • #4
        SkyHawk
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Sep 2012
        • 23525

        I'd rather run a pump action AR with removable mags.
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        • #5
          CaliforniaLiberal
          #1 Bull Goose Loony
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Jan 2008
          • 4690

          Originally posted by SkyHawk
          I'd rather run a pump action AR with removable mags.

          Does this already exist? Accepting standard AR mags? Tell me more!
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          • #6
            SkyHawk
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Sep 2012
            • 23525

            Originally posted by CaliforniaLiberal
            Does this already exist? Accepting standard AR mags? Tell me more!
            Yes it exists. Sucks that it might come to this...



            Last edited by SkyHawk; 02-26-2016, 9:27 PM.
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            • #7
              Chameleon Loco
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2012
              • 2187

              Way before my time of coming of age and buying firearms the old geezers had bushmaster top loading ar-15s and fab 10 lowers in which the only way to load the ar-15 was from the top. I'm sure a couple cal gunners still have them

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              • #8
                m850168
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2014
                • 852

                Read the text of AB 1663 and AB 1664. The term "detachable magazine" in both bills is defined to include things like the clips used in a Garand.

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                • #9
                  50BMGBOB
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2005
                  • 1738

                  There was an adapter to load the FAB10 from the top from striper clips. I think I still have mine.
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                  • #10
                    CAL.BAR
                    CGSSA OC Chapter Leader
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 5632

                    I hate to be a dream killer, but they already have a pump action AR already on the market that will be able to use detachable mags. Why redesign the Garand?

                    Squirreled away in the Troy booth at SHOTShow 2014 was the “PAR” or Pump-Action Rifle.All golf jokes aside, the PAR is a AR-style pump rifle and looks to be a real (tack)driver.Built for states and countries with restrictions on ownership, the receivers are proprietary.

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                    • #11
                      GSLapua
                      Member
                      • Dec 2015
                      • 227

                      ARMagLock is a new patent pending AR-15 fixed magazine & release solution that helps New York, California, Connecticut and newly proposed Rhode Island owners to avoid assault weapon firearm registration within their respective states...


                      Probably cheaper and less effort than a pump action ar or top loading from a clip
                      Last edited by GSLapua; 02-26-2016, 9:57 PM. Reason: Fixed link

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                      • #12
                        003
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jul 2010
                        • 3436

                        What you are suggesting has already been created. Prior to the bullet button concept, one or more companies developed AR style rifles for sale in California that had a solid magazine base and could only be loaded from the top. Similar to the broom handle mauser.

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                        Last edited by 003; 02-26-2016, 10:03 PM.

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                        • #13
                          Grumpyoldretiredcop
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 6437

                          For what it's worth, the AR manufacturer that I work for sells a magazine that is installed by removing the bolt stop, installing the magazine into the well from the top, then reinstalling the bolt stop. The magazine can't be removed without disassembling the bolt stop. As far as I can see, this would comply if those asinine bills make it into law.

                          Now someone just has to come up with an AR upper that has a loading port and a stripper guide. That's probably about as close as anyone's going to come to what the OP wants.

                          I do have to admit that the idea of a modern rifle that self-ejects its clip with that Garand "ring" is very fun though.
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                          • #14
                            Danodog
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                            • May 2013
                            • 2533

                            Originally posted by CaliforniaLiberal
                            What?

                            Are you saying this will cause controversy? Heated replies? Boundless entertainment?
                            Yes it was my lame attempt to inject humor. I remember a thread similar to this that went south quickly. My sincerest apologies if you were offended.

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                            • #15
                              CSACANNONEER
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                              • Dec 2006
                              • 44094

                              Like Bob said, this is not a new idea. It was done back in 2002. I still have my modified spoon somewhere.
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