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[tiger222]

If you want it, get it. I would look at the 9mm version too.

[Rusty_Shackleferd]

I would steer clear from anything kel tec unless you want it as a range toy at best. known for their cool factor and problems. i also don't like how the rdb drops cases from the rear. that can land inside your shoe, gear, and or make you slip on it?

a pic of my tavor.

It's hard to take your opinion seriously when I know, for a fact, that you have never seen, let alone handled or shot kel-tec's new RDB, or their RFB

[MASTERLAB]

Desert tech mdr

[penguinofsleep]

OP:
- it's ugly
- it's mostly plastic
- it's expensive for what it is
- firearm mounted lights are harder to use on bullpups in general
- why no magwell?
- crappy ca laws negate most advantages
- depending on your politics, perhaps you don't want to buy things made in israel or any other middle eastern country.

in all seriousness now, i personally am still waiting for "the bullpup". i don't think the tavor is significantly better than an aug, f2000, or ps90 if we want to count non 5.56 firearms too in my limited experience. i have not tried the kel-tec rfb or british sa80/L85 before so no comments there. i have only tried an airsoft FAMAS but i think the french are replacing them anyways. at this point, for anyone who really wants a bullpup, i'd just say get the one that fits you best.

on a different note, it's a bit sad the first 2 bullpup shotguns that were popular (ksg and uts-15) weren't exactly well executed, at least imo. and now a few others have come out too from small companies but i don't know anything about them. but this poor execution of what i think is a great idea may have driven this idea into the ground as little more than a novelty in the minds of too many people for companies to dump $ into a solid bullpup shotgun, esp when a r870 or m500 starts at around $300. hopefully im wrong and someone comes out with an really good bullpup pump action shotgun soon... which then leads to "the bullpup" rifle that i'd like too.