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  • #46
    CSACANNONEER
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
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    • Dec 2006
    • 44092

    Hey Slochicken,

    I have a question that a medical professional should be able to answer. My cousin, a NP, just received her doctorate in Nursing a few months ago. While working at the hospital should she be addressed as Dr. Lastname or just Nurse Lastname? She's taught nursing courses at her local university. I would think there "Dr." would be the right choice but, in a medical setting, I think addressing her as "Dr." could cause confusion for patients. I haven't talked to her since she received her doctorate but, I was thinking about this the other day while driving and was wondering how I should address her if I ever happen to bump into her while shes working.
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    • #47
      SloChicken
      Veteran Member
      • Jul 2012
      • 4533

      Originally posted by dscoduc

      I read countless of posts of people who get burned by every shop in town... it happens in retail (as the old saying goes - "Selling would be great if it weren't for the customers")... Just saying, shop there - don't shop there... your choice. But to assume they suck and are trash because one guy you happen to know had a bad experience over a year ago seems a little petty to me...
      Regarding Ares.

      If they had only burned one or two people that griped, that would be one thing, and you are right - every shop has an unhappy customer or 3.
      The difference being, basically everybody got burned by them for a long time and they were real *****s about it when they were asked for refunds, CC credits, etc. to the point where they were disputing refunds.

      Bad business IMO.

      And my EMT got strung along for "over a year", not my EMT got strung along "a year ago". Big difference.

      I don't go out of my way to knock 'em down. But when somebody says they are "jus' misunderstood" and "din donuffin" it bugs.
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      Originally Posted by Cali-Shooter
      To me, it was a fist-fight, except that I did not counter-attack.

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      • #48
        SloChicken
        Veteran Member
        • Jul 2012
        • 4533

        Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
        Hey Slochicken,

        I have a question that a medical professional should be able to answer. My cousin, a NP, just received her doctorate in Nursing a few months ago. While working at the hospital should she be addressed as Dr. Lastname or just Nurse Lastname? She's taught nursing courses at her local university. I would think there "Dr." would be the right choice but, in a medical setting, I think addressing her as "Dr." could cause confusion for patients. I haven't talked to her since she received her doctorate but, I was thinking about this the other day while driving and was wondering how I should address her if I ever happen to bump into her while shes working.
        We/they go by first names.
        Pretty much everybody does, except MDs/DOs
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        Originally Posted by Cali-Shooter
        To me, it was a fist-fight, except that I did not counter-attack.

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        • #49
          twentyeggs
          Member
          • Aug 2015
          • 117

          Originally posted by SloChicken
          Twentyeggs, you have my apologies,
          You are correct. BTW the rhythm was torsades.

          As for the Bug in nonsense on your other thread, you were getting pretty carried away with the whole shoot 'em with your long range rifle before they get close stuff and varieties of rounds/weapons and so on was pretty entertaining.

          As is this thread.

          I will leave it at this,

          As far as firearms goes, I think it may be better, for now at least to talk less, listen more.

          And don't bother with build parties. Just buy a jig, a mill and some lowers.

          TM in my opinion.
          80% lowers has good deals too and you can get a complete setup from them (Jig, bits, lowers, etc.)

          Good luck!
          Thanks man, i appreciate it. You're probably right. talk less listen more. I've been shooting guns for over 20 years but I am just now getting into the knowledge of them. And there is A LOT to learn. I get frustrated when people don't get to the point and I have to filter through the off topic discussion.

          Yeah I did get carried away on the other thread lol you're right on that one. I live with a prepping family, it sticks a little harder than normal.

          Good luck with your program. I don't need to tell you how hard it is getting through any kind of medical program. Hell, my undergrad nursing program was horrific. It almost killed me. And thanks for your service as an EMT. people don't appreciate what you guys go through and the imbalance of wage compared to the kind of work you have to do and the things you see.

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          • #50
            SloChicken
            Veteran Member
            • Jul 2012
            • 4533

            [QUOTE=dscoduc;17252294]
            Originally posted by twentyeggs

            Oh SNAP!
            Simple minds, so easily entertained ...
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            Originally Posted by Cali-Shooter
            To me, it was a fist-fight, except that I did not counter-attack.

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            • #51
              twentyeggs
              Member
              • Aug 2015
              • 117

              Originally posted by SloChicken
              We/they go by first names.
              Pretty much everybody does, except MDs/DOs
              You call them Dr.

              They earned that title and its disrespectful not to call them Dr. Last name in an informal setting, or in school. If one of my professors was a doctorate nurse we called them Dr. Drummond or Dr. hart-Kepler.

              However, their colleagues, friends, ect.. they go by first name. So if you know them on a personal level you just use their first name.
              Last edited by twentyeggs; 11-21-2015, 10:32 PM.

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              • #52
                Alpha Male
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2013
                • 933

                I am below their profession but we call NP's by their first name;however, we still give them all their respect. It's similar to that of pharmacists. Nobody I know addresses the pharmacists as "doctor"

                Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
                Hey Slochicken,

                I have a question that a medical professional should be able to answer. My cousin, a NP, just received her doctorate in Nursing a few months ago. While working at the hospital should she be addressed as Dr. Lastname or just Nurse Lastname? She's taught nursing courses at her local university. I would think there "Dr." would be the right choice but, in a medical setting, I think addressing her as "Dr." could cause confusion for patients. I haven't talked to her since she received her doctorate but, I was thinking about this the other day while driving and was wondering how I should address her if I ever happen to bump into her while shes working.

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                • #53
                  Alpha Male
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2013
                  • 933

                  my side comment, what about optometrists going by "doctor" and then requesting the title "MD".

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                  • #54
                    SloChicken
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jul 2012
                    • 4533

                    Originally posted by twentyeggs
                    Thanks man, i appreciate it. You're probably right. talk less listen more. I've been shooting guns for over 20 years but I am just now getting into the knowledge of them. And there is A LOT to learn. I get frustrated when people don't get to the point and I have to filter through the off topic discussion.

                    Yeah I did get carried away on the other thread lol you're right on that one. I live with a prepping family, it sticks a little harder than normal.

                    Good luck with your program. I don't need to tell you how hard it is getting through any kind of medical program. Hell, my undergrad nursing program was horrific. It almost killed me. And thanks for your service as an EMT. people don't appreciate what you guys go through and the imbalance of wage compared to the kind of work you have to do and the things you see.
                    No worries, hell I was only an EMT-1 (what most people call an EMT) for about a year, then I got my EMT-P (paramedic) and did various roles (FF/Medic, Gov't Contract, Set Medic/catering eater/extras philanderer haha!)
                    I suffered a spinal injury (L3-L4fx and resulting 4 level bilateral laminectomy, 3 level discectomy) and got a disability retirement and went to nursing school.
                    I got into Georgetown's AG-AC NP program due to my background in Critical Care and thought it may be a better fit for me, but now I am not so sure it is worth the extra cost vs. FNP.
                    Time will tell.

                    Again, I wouldn't bother with the 'build party", and would just buy a jig and some lowers. You will have a good setup and some tools that will last a lifetime for various things (Car parts, furniture, tools, etc).

                    Good luck!
                    Last edited by SloChicken; 11-21-2015, 10:41 PM.
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                    Originally Posted by Cali-Shooter
                    To me, it was a fist-fight, except that I did not counter-attack.

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                    • #55
                      twentyeggs
                      Member
                      • Aug 2015
                      • 117

                      Originally posted by Alpha Male
                      I am below their profession but we call NP's by their first name;however, we still give them all their respect. It's similar to that of pharmacists. Nobody I know addresses the pharmacists as "doctor"
                      before or after you have established rapport with them? Informally I always hear the Dr. if they are a colleague or someone you work along with then yeah first names.

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                      • #56
                        SloChicken
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jul 2012
                        • 4533

                        Originally posted by Alpha Male
                        my side comment, what about optometrists going by "doctor" and then requesting the title "MD".
                        They would be Ophthalmologists, and most certainly are MDs and very deserving of the title.

                        Optometrists are doctors, but have not been to medical school. I don't know their exact scope of practice, but I am quite sure it is very limited vs what an ophthalmologist does.
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                        Originally Posted by Cali-Shooter
                        To me, it was a fist-fight, except that I did not counter-attack.

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                        • #57
                          SloChicken
                          Veteran Member
                          • Jul 2012
                          • 4533

                          Originally posted by twentyeggs
                          You call them Dr.

                          They earned that title and its disrespectful not to call them Dr. Last name in an informal setting, or in school. If one of my professors was a doctorate nurse we called them Dr. Drummond or Dr. hart-Kepler.

                          However, their colleagues, friends, ect.. they go by first name. So if you know them on a personal level you just use their first name.
                          Your patients refer to you as doctor ???
                          I have and do work with tons of NPs and I have never heard of such a thing.

                          I agree in academia, the deans, etc. that hold doctorates are referred to as Dr.

                          But as someone said above.

                          Pharm Ds, PTs, and from what I have seen NPs do not refer to themselves as Dr. _______.
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                          Originally Posted by Cali-Shooter
                          To me, it was a fist-fight, except that I did not counter-attack.

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                          • #58
                            Bullets&Whitewalls
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2012
                            • 2360

                            Tactical machine like the other guys mentioned. I had tried a couple others and had fitment issues with mags and uppers. It was a bummer to cut them up after milling them but I learned a ton and my TM lowers operate flawless.

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                            • #59
                              Alpha Male
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2013
                              • 933

                              well i would normally ask everyone and anyone how they would like to be called because neither bothers me, I am perfectly fine with calling people ms. ma'am sir or doctor minus the optometrists going by "doctor"... I think our NP preferred to be called by her first name even though the doctors tried to introduce here as Ms first name and last name. She quickly squashed it, and requested to be called by her first name. Anyway, thank you both for all the content in this thread both on and off topic.

                              On a side note, I am going for my 3rd degree- switched over to hopefully start a expedited BSN program in Fall of 2016. I was originally going admin in health care but wanted to see if nursing might be my thing so I tried being an MA and I like it a lot. so all I have left is anatomy and physiology and then i can apply!

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                              • #60
                                twentyeggs
                                Member
                                • Aug 2015
                                • 117

                                Originally posted by SloChicken
                                No worries, hell I was only an EMT-1 (what most people call an EMT) for about a year, then I got my EMT-P (paramedic) and did various roles (FF/Medic, Gov't Contract, Set Medic/catering eater/extras philanderer haha!)
                                I suffered a spinal injury (L3-L4fx and resulting 4 level bilateral laminectomy, 3 level discectomy) and got a disability retirement and went to nursing school.
                                I got into Georgetown's NP program due to my background in Critical Care and thought it may be a better fit for me, but now I am not so sure it is worth the extra cost vs. FNP.
                                Time will tell.

                                Again, I wouldn't bother with the 'build party", and would just buy a jig and some lowers. You will have a good setup and some tools that will last a lifetime for various things (Car parts, furniture, tools, etc).

                                Good luck!
                                Yeah, I started out on the EMT track. I wanted to be a firefighter and in California unless you are a paramedic your chances are nil to none in getting a spot. But as I took the courses and realized how competitive it is, I decided to just get a degree, which evolved into nursing.

                                As for the jig. I was told by the local shooting range/gun shop, modulus arms was the best because it doesn't clamp onto the sides of the lower but rather it locks in over the top rather than the sides. https://www.modulusarms.com/sale-uni...eiver-package/

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